Ya Mu

Actually Missouri does have an acupuncture law. I do not know what their "prescriptive" license is. But as far as I know, several states, such as Mississippi, would put a person in jail for practicing medicine without a license if they called themselves a physician or stuck a needle into a person, unless they are a MD or DO. Possibly now the chiropractors can do it there, with their amazingly long training of 100 - 200 hrs (many trained acupuncturists would like to insert sarcastic remark here). However, a licensed massage therapist can operate there and do Taoist medicine all day long. I have had several inquiries form that area. But a workshop has not yet manifested there. It takes someone local who can do the organizing of the workshop - which is quite a lot of work and most people are unwilling to do this when they find out what all is involved.

Yes to all of the questions. Everyone needs to practice Listening. In class we do Gift of the Tao off and on for 2 days.

First of all let me address this: It depends if your concerns are gaining what you and your parents consider credentialized "respectability". If that is what you desire then I would say your best bet would be to go to pre-med studies then apply to Osteopathic school. You would then have the credentials to practice medicine. At that point you could learn acupuncture, Taoist medicine, or any number of different therapeutics. With all due respect to acupuncturists out there, who, IMO don't get the proper respect they deserve for their training time put in, what you will find in the real world is that they are NOT considered physicians and are mostly considered technicians or therapists. And of course this depends on what part of the country you are in and what country you are in. Also, pain patients are probably going to be 90% of the clients that you would see. There is nothing disrespectful about being a massage therapist as well. As I told you already, EVERYTHING depends on your efficacy. If you do not make patients happy with dynamic results then it matters not what you are. If you are a massage therapist with dynamic results I assure you that there will not be a problem in people coming to you. Same as if you are an acupuncturist with dynamic results. Taoist medicine is NOT a pain technique. I specialize in the elimination of pain because it is desperately needed by people. But the system itself is the essence of PREVENTIVE medicine and addresses whole body harmony. I see many immune system clients. I really don't think there is any western described "disease" that I have not seen in people. But we do not care what their problem is - we just do. It is all about restoring harmony to the person body, mind and soul. We mostly work on the Shen level to accomplish this, but really address everything. Taoist medicine and medical qigong have an extremely high efficacy. The results RV mentions are typical. In the end you should follow your heart, your true heart, not the emotional one.

Although I do realize it doesn't make any sense linearly "it just kinda came to you" is not what I said. This is nothing I planned, made up, had any intention of doing, etc. Re-read the section in the book about practicing "Listening". Yes, absolutely it has made an extreme difference in my life - and the lives of other people - practicing these moves. As I said, they are highly energetic and help to open the energy gates. They also help induce a resonance for the levels from which they came.

Actually, I very seldom use it in clinic. Pain is usually gone with the other techniques I use. Yes, I think it works well for its application. Mostly I have sold this in my clinic to martial artists and their families.

The Gift of the Tao movements are highly energetic exercises that approximate complicated energy patterns as seen in Higher Levels. I received them through the practice of Stillness-Movement - Sleeping Qigong - Dreaming Qigong. As such, one could say they are extensions of Stillness-Movement. It IS a complete workout of the energy body. Purpose for spending time to create these? No choice or thought process involved; I practice Listening and just Do.

It is made by a graduate of my certification program. He utilizes "qi empowerment" and ages it in-ground for a year. Do a search for general properties of dit da jow. Classic Chinese "hit" formula, externally used.

I usually schedule workshops about 2 months in advance. Usually about 4 a year in Missouri, then randomly elsewhere. You can always fly to London in January for the workshop there. I am level IV certified (highest level of certification)as a teacher by the NQA. For the most part all the certified teachers teach different systems. If you chose the massage therapy route you could be out doing healings in a little over a year. Get the license and attend as many workshops with me as you can. You would be doing a limited amount of qi projection after the 2nd workshop. Yes, we can make it happen that quick - IF you practice. But I don't discount the value of studying herbal medicine as it is quite powerful. This is the reason I said in another thread that, if anyone chooses a TCM school, make sure it has a strong herbal medicine program. And yes, they do vary. You could get the Gift of the Tao DVD. This way you would get started with qigong and actually have good qi development inside of 6 months (IF you practiced). Look over my website. You should find additional info such as fees, etc. there.www.qigongamerica.com

Organizing a workshop takes a LOT of time & effort and follow through. I wouldn't do it unless you feel a serious desire to learn the system. You have a valid point about credentials. Most people who enter my program are physicians, acupuncturists, nurses, massage therapists, chiropractors, etc. - but certainly not all. But be aware in some states acupuncture is limited, at least I think some states still are - do your research. Massage therapy gives a person a lot of freedom compared to other practitioners. If you are good at this and get results, you will have plenty of people coming to you. It is all about efficacy.

I am buried to the gills and behind on all projects. This won't happen anytime soon. They are very linear body exercises. Can't describe.

I will attempt to answer your questions but perhaps in random order. I have a 500 hr program in medical qigong and it is a complete self-contained system including self-healing qigong, neigong, medical qigong, and Taoist medicine. The exception to this is usually people already have taken anatomy and physiology when they enter my program. If they haven't then college level A&P is required. In your example of attending the other school I can transfer a maximum of 200 hrs into my program. Roger and Kumar told me to stay out of California - just kidding. I have had no one who wished to step up to the plate to sponsor a workshop there - with all the responsibilities involved - so have never taught there. I did teach in Oregon for the NQA once or twice. Taught in Colorado several times and will probably do another workshop there in the spring. In a workshop I teach the basic Stillness-Movement but one workshop doesn't qualify one to do medical qigong. No to your hierarchy. In fact, I find that people who have not been indoctrinated in TCM have an easier time learning Taoist Medicine; but of course this can vary. But yes, internal qigong (neigong) and medical qigong is prerequisite. But to answer another part of your question yes, there is definitely a difference in self-healing qigong(s). Stillness-Movement neigong and medical qigong are actually part of the same system. The Stillness-Movement is what helps the medical qigong practitioner to have much ability in manipulating energy. All practitioners of this system have outstanding result rates with their patients (clients if not a physician). And if the above didn't cover your question about foundation; The Stillness-Movement and Gift of Tao is learned and practiced, then medical qigong and Taoist medicine is learned simultaneously at subsequent workshops. Hope this helps.

I think acupuncture is viable for a lot of people. My personal experience is that it just doesn't work for me. I feel a little relaxation from a session, but that is about it. And yes, I have had acupuncture from many famous doctors in the US, the ones who have written books on it, as well as from renowned doctors in China. My experience in clinic with medical qigong is that it works a lot faster, stronger, and with better efficacy. The downside is that an acupuncturist can treat many people in a day whereas a medical qigong practitioner really needs to limit themselves. So an acupuncturist can see more people in a day's time; they can have two or three people getting treatment at the same time. I used to work 12 hr days doing medical qigong but over the last few years I have cut back due to other interests - one of which is teaching others how to do this.

Unfortunately, I believe you are correct. Our schools have been turned into churn em out institutions with tests given that reflect little of what a person has learned. Of course there are many examples but one I am intensely aware of is in the medical field. Chiropractic schools attract many who just want to make the money and that hold no natural talent in manipulation. They becomes graduates of the school, but can't manipulate worth a damn and end up screwing people up, with oh so many people needing to go to them twice a week because of the very manipulation that they did. Of course this shouldn't reflect on the talented chiropractors who help people. But it is the institution itself who is to blame.

Nada Actual study means just what it says. I am always amazed at people who think Medical Qigong can be learned from a book. Do the same folks think brain surgery can be learned just from reading a book? How about world-class tennis playing? Read a book and be able to do it? How about any number of subjects that require much more than reading? Acupuncture training and medical qigong training require the same intense study. So, read a book and think you now know how to properly stick a needle in - whoops. So read a book and think you now properly know how to repair a broken bone with medical qigong - whoops. No; it doesn't work that way. If anyone doesn't subscribe to this then the next time they are in need of a doctor should they just go to some lay person who has read a book? Need surgery? Why, Jim down the street read a book or two on it. Anyone who thinks this should just show a book on acupuncture to a friend and ask them to put needles in? And then they should just grin and like it because that is all that is needed? Sheesh One can learn about something by reading a book. Not the same thing as studying it.

And one could learn to stick needles in people by reading a book as well; see how far either one gets you compared to actually study of the subject.

It does boggle the mind, doesn't it? Here we have a Masters level program that is supposed to teach about utilizing Qi but they refuse to actually teach about utilizing qi. Strange. Check out their herbal medicine department; if it is a good one then the education should be worth it. But either before, during, or after, learn qi manipulation through a medical qigong program. My understanding is the program in Chicago has an outstanding herbal medicine dept. so that would be an alternative. I personally am not a fan of needle acupuncture.

Ah, surely, and how many enjoy their mainstream toothpaste in the morning and again at night. Guess what it says to do if you swallow? TTB'ers probably already know; most sheeple don't.

Wouldn't be surprised, if you searched further, that you would find over a hundred threads on this board saying roughly the same thing. Yet right now there are 3 such threads going on about how good this is. Go figure. Have fun.

Have you tried both methods? I say it is a true method because it is - as in it is a true hand me down method, and, from what I was taught, the true TAOIST method - NOT what some scholar got out of an ancient text and CALLED it a Taoist method. Sure there can be other "true" methods within other non-taoist systems and I am sure argument within the Taoist system itself. I can tell you it is a total fallacy to think that the ejaculation/semen IS the energy itself and that it is totally not necessary to retain it. What IS necessary is that the ENERGY ITSELF be re-consumed/re-integrated. edit: sp -1

Ah, I believe you are correct. I teach a dual cultivation sexual method that is a part of a whole spiritual system. It is truly awesome - and simple. It is listed in the book. Don't know if it would work with another system to the extent it works within the Stillness-Movement system. I think I have gone on record as being totally against the birth control method that has been so popularized. I was taught that this method is just that - a birth control method practiced before the advent of condoms. Having personally practiced both methods my view is that the birth control method is dangerous, of small practical benefit if any at all, and not even close to the energetics of the true dual method. That said, there is almost nothing that can't be turned into a gong fu; if one puts enough time and effort into twiddling a popsicle stick I am positive that it can be turned into an energetic cultivation system; how efficient it would be is a mystery until someone tries it - I suspect not worth all that time & effort.

I saw the video but was wondering if anyone here saw it in real time. If it was a plane it seems that the air traffic controllers would know? Ah, I guess they wouldn't, especially if it was a plane doing spraying. It is, however, certainly coincidental that there is a navy base right about where it looked that it came from. For the first time, yesterday I saw the crisscross patterns you describe in my area and yes, to me they certainly did not look like normal trails.

As far as mainstream media goes it appears CBS has more info. It was one of their affiliate stations that caught it on camera. Sure as heck doesn't LOOK like an airplane. Public will probably never know.

So is cracked conch and conch salad. I was a resident of the Bahamas at one point in my life. ALL things conch, fresh fish, English ales, & pirates. Enjoy the DVD - Learn then do outside in those amazingly powerful and beautiful mountains. One must have studied anatomy and physiology in order to perform the Taoist medicine. Observe means exactly that - watch what is done. But yes, I do think you can do, and if you take the class you WILL do, wai chi liao fa.

Older than the hills and younger than a fresh spring rain.