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DIdn't break them lifting the blocks it was more of a recent repetitive use injury. (the break was a long time ago) The blocks were about 15-20 kg each and I was lifting two at a time for a total of about 9,000 lbs (over 4,000 kg). I loaded them then unloaded them. They are fine now - haven't hurt at all since I got the clinical qigong session.

On bone breaks/fractures I think no matter the classification there is always a certain amount of soft-tissue damage and stagnation associated with the break and that this damage varies even within classifications. The sooner clinical qigong is applied the better and faster the healing process can be. It can still work greatly to ease the pain but our observation is that if applied immediately the healing time factor is amazingly longer in the not treated versus the treated. Also I think the different type of fractures and the variation is one reason why a clinical qigong study in this area would be difficult to do as even within the same classification the healing time will be different due to many factors such as fracture location, patient compliance, age, general physical & circulatory health, etc. Another one happened last week: I trashed my wrists (which I broke both of them in the past) lifting 9,000 lbs of concrete block - twice. I had just done this and was speaking with a practitioner of this system and bitchin about it when they offered to do clinical qigong. The practitioner did and I had 100% pain relief immediately. On a scale of 1-10 I would have put the pain at 8 before the session.

Simplified case history reported to me this past week. Client: His new wife Therapist: A Farmer (not a therapist) I taught 2 years ago Symptoms: Severe emotional swings with severe body tension She has been to multiple physicians. The guy was telling me she was in the middle of an episode and he remembered what I had taught him. He applied the medical qigong. He said she exclaimed, "What is that I am feeling!" He said her eyes had gotten as big around as saucers. He calmly told her he was projecting qi. In just a few minutes, for the first time in her life when having an episode, she said she was calmer than she had ever been with all the tension totally drained. She thought it a miracle, he explained that it is Chinese medicine. Bear in mind this guy is a farmer who I taught qigong to 2 years ago. Ah, the concept of the family healer - such a great thing! Another one. Client: 12 year old Paso Fino Diagnosis: Laminitis Founder happens more to small horses than the draft type. Fresh spring grass is the culprit. She could barely stand up and couldn't walk. The vet said he didn't think she would get over it. And she may not. He said she probably would have to be put down. Therapy utilized: Medical Qigong & Taoist Medicine At first, she would feel better from a treatment but the positive effects appeared to only last a few hours. So I tried again. Each time same thing for the first week but it appeared to last longer after each session. After 3 weeks and multiple sessions she is now dancing around and walking. Still not out of the woods, but the treatments are working. I just hope we can take her all the way to healing. A very tough case.

The MP have consistently asked to be left alone, from multiple sources - not just the one referenced. It is a CLOSED system.

I would like to make a comment in support of the real Mo Pai. If folks look at my posts they will see little to no use of the words "Mo Pai". That is because I respect them, unlike the insulters and deluded juvenile acting laugh-behind-their-hands non-practitioners who read a beginners book and attempt to lay claim to something that is not theirs; none of them have been taught by a real teacher of the system. An actual representative of the Mo Pai has been on this board and respectfully said that they wished to be left alone. Why can't we respect their wishes? If they - the real Mo Pai - at some point wish to have conversations on here then great. Do we really wish to add insult to the actual practitioners of the system?

Good for you! One of my students was telling me just yesterday about teaching a class where an elderly woman in a wheel chair came in. She was performing the adjusted Gift of Tao movements very well and was exclaiming about feeling the energy and seeing the energy from the instructor. These arts are for everyone.

SECAB&DE will fill in holes and expand energy body.

Agreed. I have found movement will help balance most of what is being described here. I advocate a balance of movement and internal sitting/standing.

A little boy was walking along the path. He came upon a snake who asked the boy, "Will you please pick me up and put me in your pocket?" The little boy replied, "But you are a snake. And I have heard that snakes bite people." The snake replied, "Oh, but I won't bite you, I promise. I have the best of intentions and just want to get warm. Please pick me up and put me in your pocket so I can get warm." The little boy said to himself, "Well, I guess I shouldn't mind picking up the snake." So he did and put the snake in his pocket. The little boy walked along and soon his hands got cold and he put them in his pockets to warm up. The snake immediately bit him. The little boy cried "Here I helped you and you told me you wouldn't bite me!" The snake replied, "But you knew I was a snake when you picked me up."

Cobi is referring to discharging static field, I think. Jox is referring to pulling in Earth Qi; obviously he has reached a level of doing so without touching Earth just like thousands of other practitioners. Two totally different things. Whether it is a good thing to discharge static electric field is independent of practices. Either it is or it isn't. For me, it feels weird if I have a static electric charge. Touching Earth grounds it. If I remember correctly, negative ions are repelled by static field charge. Regardless, I wouldn't want to go a day without discharging. Depends a lot on what a person does, wears, etc.

Agreed. Works wonders. My favorite early morning is "walk me out in the morning dew; barefoot then skim the grass with the feet. Discharges static field AND gives one more negative ions. But as to the circuit, Somewhere I threw in that I had also experimented with grounding and these circuits so it is my fault for leading astray. They are not typically used for grounding. It is more of an energy redistribution thing. I think they are good although I haven't used them in - good lord, I am counting.... 25-30 years?.... lets just say a long time. Used as suggested I never saw anything negative about them except, as I said earlier, when a person put himself/herself in circuit with another person. Copper works best, silk is much gentler, aluminum - I don't know. I racked up quite a bit of time with them. My Sequential move led me away from using them cause it is so much more effective and also does the same energy redistribution. Time spent, efficiency, and all that. Otherwise I would still be using these.

To expand on this of him putting himself in-circuit with the patients, he had several recorded cases where people got well while he on the other hand got sick. I believe if he had of practiced qigong it would have helped him - but apparently from what I recall (from the 80's) he had some very sick people he was dealing with. Sick qi is a very real thing.

"We have enough critics on the outside without falling out amongst ourselves." I agree 100%. edit to add: This is one reason I favor Sean's idea to have an optional subforum where everyone there uses real names. I find that a person with a name is a heckuva lot easier to get to know than one without one and the TTBers I have met in person would have been difficult, except for their energetic signatures, to know from their writings - all have been amazingly neat folks to be around and worldwide friends are a treasure to have.

Yes. The good doctor did this and got sick. Same principle as in medical qigong and sick qi. Copper is a better conductor. But aluminum is way cheaper. I never tried aluminum so can't comment.

Very interesting to experiment with, good for energy redistribution. Once a person has passed a certain point with their qigong not as useful. But resting state achieved is very good. I experimented with these through the 80's. I used a modified circuit which adds more connections than the one you posted, as well as grounding (a real ground) the sacral plate. I highly advise against attempting the double in-circuit with another - good way to die young.

Yes, sorry for the thread derail - but I hate misinformation being constantly given so felt like a response needed.

You know I agree with a lot of what you say here in terms of training in terms that it must be good training. But you seem dead set on insulting western qigong schools which apparently you have no knowledge of. Again, there are none here in the USA that I know of that do not have complete systems of training. Sure their are one-week "certifications" and this sort of thing which do meet your criteria. But the clinical qigong schools I am familiar with, like the one Jerry started run now by Bernard Shannon, the one in Colorado run by Damaris Jarboux, Richard Leirer's school in New Mexicao, J. Michael Wood's school in Nashville, the Institute of Chinese Energy Healing, run by me; all these schools have complete training and each of the instructors DID complete training in China at Qigong Hospitals. My training totality was 21 years apprenticeship plus 3 year intensive until teacher died plus multiple seminars, workshops, and other training; Damaris & Jerry both had extensive training. I know as I was in China when Jerry arrived for his training and I have had multiple interactions with Damaris who I consider one of the best teachers in the USA. I have met and interacted with Richard and J Michael and consider them to be top notch teachers. None of these schools fall into the category you keep harping about. No known training programs in medical qigong do. Now perhaps it is so in your country, so please in the future, if this is the case, precede your comments "this is the way it is in the United Kingdom" - which I sincerely doubt is true but certainly could be as far as I know. Please give a link to the ones in your country you are referring to. Again, none of the schools I know of call themselves "alternative" therapy but do refer to "complementary" therapy - as I have posted hundreds of times here if you would bother to read. National Qigong Association - let me do that for you: http://www.bing.com/search?q=national+qigong+association&go=Submit&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=national+qigong+association&sc=2-27&sp=-1&sk=&ghc=1&cvid=5c635196930a40d69de30afe1d48f4f4 From above: Level-IV Teacher at least 1000 hours documented formal Qigong training at least 10 years Qigong experience teaching teachers. must sit an interview with members of the Application Review Committee The bottom line is you have multiple posts where you malign things you have no knowledge of and you do this over and over. Please study and inform yourself before posting these things. One post you had stated (and I am paraphrasing) that there are people practicing "quack" medicine on this board. I have seen none of that. I will say I have seen overenthusiastic practitioners giving advice when someone posted asking for help but none that I saw consisted of "medical advice." In fact most say "Go to your doctor." I am sure that if "medical advice" by a non-physician were posted that the admin would do something about it. Please link to the posts you are referring to. And, since you apparently didn't read where I posted this in this thread, and since you apparently have not much knowledge of clinical qigong, clinical qigong applications have a number of trauma related techniques that work and they work well - NOT as the misinformation you stated.

and..acute situations respond remarkably to medical qigong and any practitioner who actually trains in medical qigong dang well should know that one calls the ambulance first. The USA has a standardization certification for clinical qigong practitioners; it demonstrates quite well the training that one has to go through to get this certification. I know of no programs in the USA where people would be trained to do anything but common sense in emergency situations - just like the training programs that were in the hospitals of China. My point is that people who have actual medical qigong training are not stupid, are not irresponsible, and are not the type that GP posts about - it is misinformation for medical qigong to be maligned in this way by the uninformed.

Yes, but you are using the absurd to malign Taoist Arts that apparently you are not familiar with.

I love listening to Heavenly music and often hear it. Have you heard this choir?

From the other thread but appropriate here: http://vimeo.com/30501143

Your hypothetical case is an unheard of practical case. You are stating an extreme view that does not represent what is happening anywhere I know of. Have you actually seen your hypothetical case happening where you live? I sincerely doubt it but if you say you have I will believe you. It sure as heck is not happening here in the USA anywhere I have been. In fact, I know the majority of the medical qigong teachers here in the USA and NONE would suggest any such sort of thing you are stating.

Very few recordings released anywhere today are not processed. And I was aware that one was (I am an acoustical engineer) - but still thought it pretty awesome. Listen to it for what it is without trying to put it down and you may find it very meditative. But yes, if people only knew what their favorite music stars really sounded like without all the processing there may not be as many fans. But I am a fan of crickets, and like Brian, listen to them every night. I can sometimes hear the heavenly music even when I am not listening for it.

How many qigong hospitals have you been in to make this sort of statement? I have observed amazing results with many different types of fractures. Removal of pain and decreased healing time. Always, of course, after the patient was treated at a western hospital. In many of the Chinese hospitals there were medical qigong departments alongside of the western medicine department. Do what is needed - the patient was evaluated and sent to the different departments that could help recovery. Not many studies out on it, though. http://www.qigonginstitute.org/shopping/preview_abstract.php?id=29 As to the topic: I think his accomplishments in cultivation were more than history credits. Also, the comments about racism and sharing with other countries - It is true that many of the Chinese Masters felt that western peoples could not learn the arts and it is also true that many felt a patriotism of keeping the arts to China. But much (not all) of this was more due to the inability of the majority of westerners to be able to understand or be communicated to concerning concepts which do not translate well into our languages. I met many of the Masters who were amazed when I was introduced as a western qigong master and they wanted to know (and this was not an insulting type of asking but a genuine asking) how in the world was I able to learn this. Of course, just like here, I met some who I think were racist and who acted aggressively insulting towards me. Quickly, a small story to illustrate this point. I was in a TCM hospital doing observation and met a Tui Na doctor who was extremely insulting and who I thought was a very bad behaving unprofessional doctor. He haughtily offered me tickets to a qigong event sponsored by the Qigong Research Society which had thousands of people coming to. I said no thanks and he told me I would not be able to get tickets anywhere. I have to admit the look on his face was priceless when he came into the event and I was sitting in the front row reserved for the communist dignitaries and accomplished masters. But the majority of Chinese practitioners I met were extremely nice and helpful people, and, JUST LIKE HERE, if a person shows respect, desire to learn, and patience they will find it goes far.

They recognize you. Once a person has practiced Stillness-Movement for a while, and raised the energy body vibration, and once you have practiced with one tree, due to the connection of Tree other Tree will also recognize you. Which is really cool! What I said about projecting qi into top of tree; this I do just to help them as I feel humanity has neglected the relationship for soooo long. And there is no problem awakening Tree in winter IF we practice Listening. One will know whether Tree will be grumpy or just exited about the contact. Also, do practice your observation skills, as it becomes easier to correlate the looks of trees and the energetics and distinguish between old Warrior Tree, young and enthusiastic, male or female. How about this; a tree sounds like: http://vimeo.com/30501143