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焦國瑞 jiao1 guo2 rui4 has published fine books about 5 animals.

whole lower belly rises at abdominal breathing during inhaling - diaphragm presses lower belly on inhaling to rise.

regarding to the many postings about fu... it would be interesting how many do believe in it... poll about fu

... it is a great thing to have a teacher this shows you true friendship... a teacher can teach you what can be taught between humans.. yes he can teach a systemized way... yes mathematics can be taught to some extent and this makes it easier to learn the stuff.. but there are also things no teacher can teach you... things you can only experience : for example: fire is hot (parents can tell it to their children as often they like... a child knows it in the moment it has touched something heated by fire) ... to feel 精 feeling the influence of above and below... 天 地... feeling ...心印妙經: 气 精 神: 神依形生　精依氣盈--- daodejing 14 夷... 希... 微

i have heard of another story why it should be upside down... a man named fu was searched by police--- but everybody knew that he was innocent... to protect him they labeled their doors with the symbol for fu upside down showing their solidarity... and thus police could not find the man named fu

sounds interesting - nevertheless i dont share your view that 德 in daodejing has something to do with ethics... we should see clearly that ethics are man-made... have a look at ddj 10 there you can see that laozi's de is not something made by human ... 能 無 為 乎 生之, 畜之 生而不有 為而不恃 長而不宰 是謂玄德 this cannot be taught this cannot be learned in my oppinion it is something we have to feel - to experience - and to go in line with ... 天 門 開 闔 能 為 雌 ....

it has good reasons why tele-diagnosis and tele-therapy are condemned as quackery,... one should not support something that goes in this direction..

for you too...

Could you give me the chinese character for FAAT? --- oh sorry- i have overlooked your reply in the other thread " Yes, FA 法. = FAAT. 降法 GONG FA means giving you FA from a source. Sometimes heaven, sometimes altar and sometimes from the master. The FA 法 can sometimes be expressed as the qi you talked about but it is really not all of it. There is a difference betwen primeval-qi and FA. hard to express but you will experience it when you learn in the lineage too. Takes time to tell the difference. But since you already have this primeval-qi in you now, you will feel the difference when you get into the lineage of Chi in Nature later on in the future. Mak Tin Si"

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Interesting poll! In literture we can read the warning - that there have been people getting crazy - doing it in the wrong way... Does anybody here have knowledge of such a case? For me personally it is in concert with other exercises nothing but well doing...

Dao gives birth to one... This is a very common rendering of 道 生一 ddj 42 yet: you have a logical problem: If dao gives birth to one, then it is outside of one - only then it can give birth to it. - the chinese 道 生一 has not this problem the problem arises in the interpretation. the sinograph 生 depicts a plant growing. Thus you can understand the sentence as dao helps to develop the unity - saying it supports integration... this makes more sense for me...

Thanks for replies.. if you want a hierarchy... what about a democratic method like this: introduce a button: by clicking you express this post is of value for me --- according to numbers of clicks the line Tao Bum is growing like this Tao Bum - Tao Bum - Tao Bum - Tao Bum ...

i dont know how this label "tao master" got written under the picture - i am not tao master- please remove this

it is a secret - ... and it will remain a secret ... laozi says in ddj 4 道... 吾不知誰之子象帝之先 wu2 bu4 zhi1 shui2 zhi1 zi3 xiang4 di4 zhi1 xian1 i dont know ... thus - how can we know more about our dao?

confusion about terms ... communication is only then possible if people have the same ideas hearing a term... if you hear the term "god" - and your associations are the term "god" as used in the bible - it is impossible to understand laozi speaking of 神 in ddj #6谷神不死是謂玄牝 , #29 天下神器, #39 神 得 一 以 寧, ...神 無 以 靈, #60 以道蒞天下 其鬼不神 。非其鬼不神 ，其神不傷人 ；非其神不傷人 , Confusion originates in persons using terms in wrong context. bible-god is not 神 in ddj castle-ghost is not 鬼 in ddj ...

great illustration...isn't it?

here you can find some: http://home.comcast.net/~taoistresource/doe_idx.htm

chinese text at: http://www.fushantang.com/1012/1012e/j5002.html

... This is an excellent way for knowing about the quality of practice indeed .(of course if ones health is in general normally)... Thank you for reminder...

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ddj5 and ddj81: How does this fit together? ddj5: Wing-Tsit Chan: Heaven and Earth are not humane ddj81 Wing-Tsit Chan: The Way of Heaven is to benefit others and not to injure. --- to benefit others- is this not a being of humane?

Yesterday i have read in Saso's book "Blue Dragon White Tiger"... At page 22 i found his statements about kenosis in daoism. ...all gods and spirits of popular religion are to be removed from temple if possible (or covered) ... for purpose to approach Dao... What are your thoughts about this?