Riyue

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  1. daojiao and kenosis

    reading the original version i hope Mak_Tin_ Si can revise his first statement... this book is a fine resource...
  2. daojiao and kenosis

    Sorry for misleading. Here more: ... Buddhist monks and nuns, perhaps tbe most iconoclastic of the three ritual teachers, disapproved entirely tbe practices of popular religion and Taoism. The use of statues, scrolls, rituals, or meat offer- ings from the popular religion are forbidden in Buddhist temples. Yet the Buddhist temples of China allow tbe reading of fortunes, the chant- ing of prayers to tbe Patron Spirit of the Soil on the first and fifteenth days of the lunar month, and other acquiescences to popular fervor. Further, an elaborate set of rituals for the deceased, a complete capitulation to the Chinese belief in a soul and the afterlife, developed at a very early date in China and Japan. Whatever the teachings of Buddbologists, philosophers, and scholars, the Buddhist care for the soul in the afterlife became the main upaya (fang-pien) convenient and skillful means for winning Chinese converts to the foreign religion from India. Buddhist philosophy for the intellectual, and popular burial serv- ices for the people, endeared Buddhism in the hearts of the people. Of the three teaching systems, Taoism was always the closest to Chinese popular religion, providing rituals for all occasions, and adapting in every possible way to local cults and practice. But at its roots and source, Taoism too teaches that the spirits of popular religion, and even the secret registers of Taoist meditation practice, are all to be emptied from the microcosm in order to be aware of the transcendent Tao. When the Taoists are called upon to perform popular village ritual of renewal called Chiao, all of the statues of the popular religion are taken outside of the temple to a table, (ritual south), or covered and hidden from view if left inside during ritual. The paradigm of Chinese temple structure is thus syntactically used as a basis for empty- ing out all spirits, for an encounter with the Tao. The cleansing of a void center, the filling of the micro and macrocosm with the generating power of the Tao, become a visible drama in Taoist ritual. Taoist's construct a sacred area called a tan 壇, in order to have audience with the Tao. The sacred area is filled with scrolls depicting the Heavenly Worthies and sacred spirits proper to tbe Taoist tradition. This list of spirits that create a pure void space is called a lu 籙 or register. Only the Taoist knows how to envision and summon these purifying images. Their scrolls, semiotic signs for eidetic-creative vision, 22 are displayed in the interior of the temple, during Taoist ritual. The members of the community and scholars chosen to join the Taoists may ask the names of the spirits. But what the people, and fre- quently the scholar are not told, is that these Taoist spirits too are to be exorcised, sent forth, and totally eradicated from the Taoist eidetic / (generative) imagination. Taoist prayer, following the tradition of the Chuang-tzu and the Lao-tzu, is basically a prayer of kenosis or image emptying. We may therefore say that the spirits of Taoism and the goal of true Taoist prayer is an emptying process. Even though the prayer of the people of China is a filling, asking, and petitionary process, Taoist ritual makes prayer into a form of giving kenosis. Taoists respond to the needs of the people by acting out rites of renewal, healing, burial, and blessing, in the manner of the people, by asking for material things. Memorials and petitions are read in public, and sent off to the heavens, earth, and underworld. The names of the men and women of the community and their needs are read publicly. The spirits of the folk religion, removed from the void center of the temple, are addressed in a public courtyard in front of the temple. The petitions are sent off to heaven by burning, to the earth by burial, and to the watery underworld by floating on a river. But in fact the goal of the Taoist of emptying and giving away, and the goal of the people to gain material wealth and blessing are made one in this process. Imitate heaven in giving, not earth in grasping, the Taoist sings. The act of parental - child love of the Confucian system, and the father-mother role of Tao and nature in the Taoist system, are equally a kenotic - giving process. Taoist public ritual is a drama visually acting out the syntax of kenotic giving. Thus the goals of Chinese religion, and the three teachers of Chinese religion, differ only in external word and appearance. All three promote a sense of emptying, compassion, and concern for human feel- ing. Though Confucius spoke frequently of the "rectification of names," (a single connotative meaning) and Buddhism saw name and rea1ity as empty, in fact the Taoist emptying of name and image, Confucius con- cern for parent-child bond, and Buddhist compassion are analogies of the syntaxis of giving by emptying. The act of winning blessing by giving generously is close to the popular Chinese religious spirit. Just as parent empties self for child, and child gives self for parent, so too, the Lao-tzu points out, the Tao eternally empties self , ie, spins breath, ges- 23 tates and forms the entire cosmos. The Tao gives wqually to friend and foe, loved and unloved. These values lie at a deep level of the living Chinese religious spirit.
  3. The True Taoism?

  4. Introducing the Taoism def. of Ghost

    thank you for this reply... 道蒞天下 - 其鬼不神 ..... 德交歸焉 ddj 60
  5. Introducing the Taoism def. of Ghost

    hi Can it be, that you are trying to point to this: In 修真圖 xiuzhentu seven gui3 are mentioned: 鬼斗 、 鬼勾 、 鬼雚 、鬼行 、 鬼畢 、 鬼甫、鬼票 they correspond to the seven stars of the big dipper representing a special 氣 / 炁 they all belong to nature... 魂 and 魄 represent yang and yin - if we understand it according to 老子 : 萬物負陰而抱陽 , 沖氣以為和- they belong to nature... the terms 鬼 神 魂 魄 try to describe natural phenomena - they have nothing to do with western terms ghost, deity, soul - pointing more to superstition 迷信 ?
  6. Introducing the Taoism def. of Ghost

    thats my way of thinking: Probably it is just a case of definition and understanding of "separation" heaven and earth build a polarity - they are "separated" - if you like this word- but cannot be thought as being isolated from each other... the world would stop to exist... practising taijiquan - if energy sinks to earth what is belonging to there and energy rises to above what is belonging to there - you are polarising your body to yin and yang - if you like you are separating them - but your body cannot exist if yin and yang are isolated (please dont remove your legs and your head) ... - i am afraid thats the idea of the yin-soul - having lost any yang...
  7. Introducing the Taoism def. of Ghost

    ddj 42: 萬物負陰 而抱陽 , 沖氣以為和. ddj 25: 道法自然 . cannot see that yin can be separated from yang... seems to me as if here happened a mistake in daojiao inventing a separated yin soul...?
  8. Horrible Posture

    it is a very long way... a daily practice for more than 10 years of qi-circulation (大周天 - 小周天) using qigong-exercises like 神棍疏泄 can improve the posture...
  9. Wuji Dimension

    i think that 無根樹 is a fine help to understand 無極... ... 無根樹 points to this: in the seed - the root - the fullness of qi is given - the full potential of a tree in neijingtu: 一粒栗中藏世界 yi1 li4 li4 zhong1 cang2 shi4jie4 free translation: the whole world is given in a chest-nut ... 無極 wuji is like being an egg: cell-division has not started - you are full of qi 氣 - but this qi shows no differentiation... this is the first posture in taijiquan: you are in a state where all movements are possible - given as potential - - but nothing is to be seen of it. -- starting taiji - the egg transforms: cell-division starts ...the change to a bird begins... the potential transforms to moving postures... --- finishing - the egg is new born - you are full of qi - having no differentiation... --- - here you get best informations about wuji: http://www.ctcwri.idv.tw/IndexD2/D2-12/051...81/01-35/13.htm
  10. Seated Meditation Posture

    hi... in Liu Yongyan little book about Yi zhi chan gong (一指禅功 - 刘永言) he writes that the posture can be adapted to what is comfortable. It is the practice of qi-circulation which makes the essence... remembering that qi follows attention one can have a fine harmonizing...
  11. Seven cervical (neck) vertebrae

    sounds interesting for me... please let me know the url at youtube - (also if there are answers to the serious questions...)
  12. How can i apply Tao to my life

    In ddj 25 dao is seen as a phenomenon of energy indeed- later on in daojiao you have texts like 奉道持戒 which are translated as if you have to worship dao. Take care...
  13. hello

    being new want just say hello... studying daodejing, qigong, taijiquan- it is sometimes helpful to have people to talk ...
  14. hello

    Thanks for welcome..
  15. Serious Questions

    Hi in daodejing 25 it is said: dao fa ziran 道法自然 dao's process is ziran (nature - or would wudang pai use another rendering?) thinking of the special qi 氣 / 炁 we find in human organs like lung, heart, liver... which in xiuzhentu are spoken of as shen2 神... here is my question: does 武當派 wudangpai tradition regard these shen2 神 as ziran? yes / no ? riyue