Cameron

With Atlanta you would also get people from Florida though. I think the vibe is Max just isn't into the NE. So I am thinking the south would be the way to go. I would agree somewhere like Asheville would probably work best for Max's liking but probably wouldn't make that myself. But would definetly make an Atlanta workshop. If Max does Asheveille maybe he could use the same studio Michael Winn uses, Lighten Up Yoga(over the blue moon bakery ) That would sort of be mean though since Max would probably end up stealing all of Michael's students. Just kidding. Michael always seemed like an open minded guy to me. I think him and Max already sort of know eachother anyway.

I probably want to visit my family in Atlanta at some point and know there is a pretty good spiritual/new age crowd in Atlanta. So, if Max goes to Atlanta in the middle to late next year I am there. Cam

I just had something else come up. No judgements or negativity or anything like that. An honest question for Gay or Bisexual Taobums(only men please if your a woman that doesn't count. Woman playing with eachother just seems like a fun sleepover). Ok..so..question. Gay and Bisexual Taobums..if you had the opportunity to be born a woman instead of a man would you prefer to have been a woman? Here is the premise of my question. If you take the idea of past lives to it's conclusion you would probably come to the conclusion that we have all been both men and woman at some point. Subsequently we have all fucked and been fucked in our respective male or female bodies(human or otherwise). I have an idea that gay or bisexual men might be strongly connencted to the karma or energy of one of there past lifetimes as a woman(I suppose you could say some very yang lesbians who play the "male role" might by the same token feel strongly connected to the energy of a past life as a man). So..if you honestly search your feelings..do you think this might be the case? Or would you still-given the opportunity to be a woman and be able to have sex with men in the regulalr fashion-would you still prefer being a man? Again, no judgments just interested in possibly exploring the past life angle and whether you honestly would have preffered to be woman(as we all probably have been both woman and men at some point if you take the past lifetime idealogy to it's conclusion). namaste

I just watched some bisexual porn. Here is my updated opinion. Do what is fun to you. It's an interesting energy. This one guy had his penis in a girls vagina(or was it her ass?) and from behind-as he was penetrating this girl-a man was penetrating him. Sort of like a dick,pussy,ass,dick sandwich. From what I could gather, these bisexual guys were clearly enjoying themselves. However, I can't shake off the feeling if these guys ever got into cultivation it might be challenging. From what I have seen of bisexual and gay porn the energy is extremely Yang. It's basically like the opposite of what Taoists teach about sexuality. Fire and ejaculate as hard and fast as you can. And my hunch is there would still be some energetic and maybe even physical damage done from that repeated sort of encounter. After a few minutes I "balanced out" watching some Man on Woman porn .Right from the start I sensed a more harmonious and balanced energy just having the female present .I don't know .I have never had sex with a man-and don't plan too-but just seems like the absence of the female yin part sort of makes the energy unbalanced. I mean..if you can somehow connect to the Earth Yin or the Moon or whatever great. I can just imagine the ancient Tao Immortals looking down on me after I meditate and start surfing Youporn going "WTF?!"

Maybe. I would be open to even just hanging out with Chris after the workshop for some desert adventures even if I don't feel up to being around Sifu again so soon. Will see. I guess I have a couple of months or so anyway. No worries. Glad to see your behavior is getting a little bit more refined. I need time to improve myself also for sure. Cameron

I would jump in also if I was able to function after Red Phoenix. If you arent able to count or pay your bills or drive a car after a practice would you say that that practice is good for you or something you should practice at this time? No..you wouldn't..unless you have mental problems. Kunlun, Standing and Martial Arts will be on Cam's to do list for now. And I will be happy to see my friends Chris and Max again if they promise to just help me stay with this whole Earth thing for now. Again, best of luck and hope you will be an Immortal Dragon in this lifetime.

Yes..I understand The Max says that, thank you. I am 32 years old and have learned the practice. From my way of seeing things I should just focus on Kunlun and some martial arts for atleast a year. Then maybe I can start practicing RP next year. I will be 33. Also..I am not really in any kind of rush to achieving Golden Dragon Body. If I can get Dragon Body by the time I am like 50 that would work perfectly fine for my schedule here on Earth. However, thank you Craig for your Golden Dragon Body concerns. Hope you get to those levels bro. Cam

It's not an issue of not wanting to see Max. It's an issue of me unable to function for weeks or months after I see him. Ok..if I get a good job going in the next couple weeks and Chris promises me Max will just let me do Kunlun and Standing and skip Red Phoenix(I can just tell the group I am a nicotine addict and need to go outside to smoke for half hour or whatever) Then I will come to atleast Phoenix. There is no point in me coming if Max touches me and sends me back into Red Phoenix mode. Heck, even Yoda was having a hard time staying focused when he went into Red Phoenix mode and he is a Real Estate Agent!!(blatent reference implying real estate agents are focused but not necissarily reflecting the truth of real estate agents as a group) Best!

How about we just disregard everything I have ever said regarding Sean or David Shen. If your interested in studying with David go to the foundation forum and listen to what he says. If your interested in studying with Max stay here and listen to what Chris says. Ok...I think that should cover all the bases.

I prefer to just call Yoda "The Great One" myself. He is like the Pele of Taoist discussion boards.

I am in an opposite situation then you guys. I could probably see Max again twice in Jan if I want to(LA and Phoenix) but am contemplating skipping them because every time I see him I just end up salivating on myself for a month and unable to function. I am thinking just do Level 1 and probably some martial arts for 2008 myself and then see him again in 2009. Of course if Chris keeps saying Max might not be around for long I would probably try to see him atleast once in '08. But only after my job situation is established and I get more grounded first. Cam

The best teaching I have heard on past lives is from Adyashanti. He basically says how you know some people say well maybe in my next lifetime I will do this or that. This IS the next lifetime. If there ever was a past life-then this life is your next lifetime. Same goes for an idea like heaven or paradise or whatever. What if your level of counsciousness in "this" life is heaven, is nirvana(or hell)? So past life..future life..are all THIS life. And it's all NOW.

I think WYG question is a good one. I don't think attaining Golden Dragon Body is anything any of us really needs to worry about accomplishing atleast anytime soon. However, it would be nice to get a sort of clear explanation on what GDB means from Mantra at some point(doesn't have to be anytime soon either imo.) Cam

It probably depends on what system you are practicing. If you are doing Sifu Max's way. My guess is you do 100 days along with Kunlun every day. If your not doing 100 days along with Kunlun every day I don't see how this can be called the "Kunlun 100 days". David Shen's system same thing. You do 100 Days along with the Foundation Training from David Shen. Just doing 100 days to do 100 days wouldn't be too interesting to me. I mean, I probably don't have the focus to pull it off anyway but if I am going to do it the whole idea would be to strengthen the arising Bliss of Kunlun Level One..not just to do 100 days. Best.

I don't know why you are turning this into some sort of argument. I am not arguing. You say the Tao doesn't 'judge' you if you engage in anal canal love. Fair enough. I am saying..this little crack behind your genitals was designed to be a one way street where your bodies waste goes out. You can't use the same argument for peoples mouths. We eat with our mouth. We talk with our mouth. We breathe with our mouths. Last time I checked..we don't talk or breathe with our anuses. We shit with them. Nice try though

Ummmm...Ok?

All good questions. As far as I can tell, oral love is perfectly natural. We kiss, we make out..we swallow eachothers saliva. Seems to be sharing yourself with your partner orally is a natural expression and I just don't see a correlation between a woman(or man) sucking a woman(or man's) penis(or vagina) and sticking your penis up in this small opening that a woman(or man's) excrement comes out of. I know. How dare I say a woman or man's mouth is any better than there shithole. Anyway..my guess is people will be discussing this long after you and I are gone

Funny Loving energy aside. I know this is maybe too simplistic. I mean, it's probably just me talking shit and I am fine if that's the case. But..from a natural biological standpoint..I am sorry..I just don't see the anal canal as being supposed to be used for sexual intercourse. I know, I know. How dare I say such a thing. BTW, this is not a gay issue at all. My guess is there are more striaght people in the world engaging in anal canal love than gay people. Probably by a huge margin. So, love who you will, enjoy your life. But I just don't see anal canal sex as being something that was designed to be the way to go for straight people or gay people. Sure, some animals might do it too. Some genius will probably talk about dolphins that massage each others anuses for life. But humans can sort of look at such things in a more clear headed fashion. It's all good. Express yourself, have fun. Just seems that the universe in this reality created these things called penises and these things called vaginas that seem from the outset they go well together. Best!

If Sifu Max suddenly goes Dragon Body I can just imagine the conversations on Taobums from now until the end of time. "Yeah...we had a teacher once..he came..he saw..he left...we called him Max". I hope Mantra is getting all the footage he can of Max so atleast at future workshops we can all sit around and do Kunlun and watch Max videos! Of course, I would prefer he does stick around. I like the man.

Yup. I am not saying don't listen to Sean. Listen to the man. I am just being honest .Sean's level of attention to details is in another ballpark then anyone on Taobums. That said..if your going to attempt 100 days just follow what Max and Chris say. The whole premise of 100 days is to me very solid but I think it takes a whole other level of dedication. Like..you have to guard your every thought like a samurai. It's just not something most of us are up to really. Let us know if your the exception

Sean, I respect your care and attention to details but your level of intense attention to lineage and focus on these matters is way out of proportion to where most people on Taobums(including myself) are at. I doubt anyone except maybe a couple are going to accomplish 100 days anyway. And I am also sorry if I treaded on anyones toes with that one. Best, Cam

Everything I have learned from Max and Chris can be summed up in one word. "Yes". Take it easy.

Which art is best? Have we discussed this before?

Ok, since your being polite about it I will back off. Just suggesting you use some common sense. Also, your manners could possibly be a little bit improved. For example, notice I don't constantly in like every other post tell you to take YOUR teachers fist out of YOUR ass and other such insulting remarks. Best of luck in your practice!

For a so called Taoist you sure blab on and ask alot of questions. How about just practice it yourself for awhile and stop blabbing? Your not learning 5 elements or Red Phoenix anyway as Max isn't coming to Australia until atleast well into next year. Before you make some smart ass remark I will tell you from my understanding it's fine to do MA forms or whatever just not qigong. OK?!