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Oh..excuse me! Your not allowed to be interested in the backround of a dude that helped open you(somewhat) and taught you the best practice you ever learned in your life. No..to be interested at all in a man's astrological energies automatically means something else.. Get thee to the Man Love thread Christoff!

Also, I am guessing Max has reached the point of transending his personal astrology..but whatever..still sort of interesting..or not!

Clarification..Mantra said he just turned 47..not 43. Taomeow please people are waiting. namaste.

Dude that is so innapropriate thing for you to say about my realationship with Max. I mean if he wanted to hang out and do Snake Bagua in the park I wouldn't say no but crush is not the appropriate language. I think you should visit the Man Love thread I recently created and get all those feelings out of your system. Ok..no more posts this year.

Hmmmm...I don't want to say too much here..but something Adyashanti once said comes to mind. Something like this..loose quote, "What if the problem that you imagine there to be doesn't exist. And the thing that is bothering you is going to last forever. How would this change your attitude if whatever your dealing with now you have to deal with forever." Something like that.

Sean, Your beating around the bush. Let's be direct. Both Pietro and Craig have basically alluded to anal sex not being something men are supposed to be doing. Obviously energetically speaking it's a non issue. Heck..even Mantra..who has the energy of like a rock star..said with Kunlun you just get whatever energy you need. But that doesn't mean sex as it is practiced by male homosexuals is in harmony with Tao. Again, I have no idea..just started this thread since there seems to be a huge taboo around this and better to just express what we think and feel. I am guessing from what Pietro and Craig mentioned anal sex with woman is totally fine?

I'll stick with Kunlun

Question where do you think you will go after you accomplish this goal of making this life your last one..what do you expect or anticipate you would find in the future existence that is not alreay here now? Seriously..I am interested..no joking either.

I want to play on my wet banana in the yard!

With situations like "Mr.Hands" where some less than balanced human desired having a horses cock in him(subsequently killing him) and other situations like weird forms of porn where woman are getting fucked by animals..you have to think..hmmm..how did this happen? Where do you think these bizarre expressions of human sexuality arise from? Seems they are NOT what the natural human expression of love is I think if ANYONE would be able to be some help to these dark corners of society it would be the ancient wisdom of the Taoists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bczbOLFx90I

On a related topic what do you all think about it being revealed that Dumbeldor from Harry Potter is a man lover? Pretty racey!

Alien love thread?

What question?

Excellent points Sean. Thanks for the Eckhart quote my main interest at the moment is seeing if I am going to see him next monday or not. Seems like "nature" is going to stop me from doing so. But let's hope those fires die down for the sake of everyone. I wonder how Trunk is doing?

I thought that this video by Enigma was pretty cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy_S8Thkqog

Hehe..well that's pretty interesting. Luckily my Japanese teacher is happily married with kids..and I guess I am beyond the age of consent anyway..ahhh...next topic!

It's all good

I think what Pietro wrote is fair and balanced. But what Mantra said makes sense also. Anyway..as some wise person somewhere said. TO EACH HIS OWN!

I don't appreciate you sharing that pic with the whole board Smile.

Ummm....Mantra and I never had a problem so the make up sex definetly wasn't going between us I think..I mean I have no idea but I am guessing..Sean O was saying make up sex between Mantra and Hundun. Holy Christ I so need this next month off posting.

Exactly. I think part of the "dark area" here is..well..let's face it we have never had a truly gay cultivator on here. I mean..I am sure there must be atleast a couple of them out there..but as far as I can tell there hasn't been anyone who has really gone anywhere with Taoist practices that is gay. I will tell you a story, The first time I met Michael Winn there was a gay man at the workshop. This was was awhile ago..even beofe I met Smile at the next workshop like a year later. I was hanging out with this nice black girl and caught Michael talking to this guy so just went up to them. They were in the middle of a conversation about how this gay man had been brutally raped by some guys and how his life had basically fallen apart after his "soul mate"(a man) died. I have to say..if there was ever a moment I was really impressed with Michael Winn it was there. Michael very compassionaly and patiently listened to every workd this guy said. I listened also but didn't have anywhere near the patience Winn had to deal with that. It's hard but my feeling dealign with the few gay men I have known is the energy of thosee realtionships don't really provide the "fuel" one needs to cultivate. And..well as Lin said you just won't go anywhere. It's hard to tak about but it's ebtter we be up front and honest about these things. And Yoda..I don't know that I agree with what you said about Max. I mean Ken Cohen says the same thing. These are compassionate beings so they are trying to help people from where they are at.

I never thought there was an Immortal man lover but I thought I remember hearing Michael Winn or someone saying there was. In any case!

Chris can express his disgust at "man love" if he wants to! IMHO man love is unbalanced but what are you going to do? They are good designers and if you live in NYC like Smile does and don't have a sense of humor about it you would go crazy! ps. Smile says everything is based on each individual situation and circumstance so maybe "man love" would have some balanced purpouse for some guys in certain situations.. I don't want to alienate anyone! Am going to start a new thread about.

Thanks for everything Chris. I think, in a way, you are all just "being yourself" and don't see much of a problem in that. We are all just characters in this play called "life" no? Everyone has there small part to play. Wish Max a happy birthday for me. cam