Cameron

I disagree about Max's diet..I think I will not go full blown Max yet but will build up to it. However..I am a little uncomfortable that Red Phoenix is still being taught at Level 1. I mean..I trust Max..but my feeling about it is teaching RP at Level 1 is like walking a razors edge. If Chris could please say something about this. I myself have stopped doing RP and committed to doing just Level 1 for a year. C

So..this has been a reoccuring question for me this year. It has come up and up an up so many times feel the pull to make a thread about it. How many spiritual teachers do you think it is balanced to study with at a time? What I aked one of my teachers at the moment and she said 2 is enough .I sort of agree with her but unfortunatly it's like if that is really the case I sort of need to eliminate quite a few people on the teacher list..including her! My sense is the 2 teachers it is feeling I should just drop everything else and study with exclusively for the next years(or however long) are Sifu Max and Aikido Master Shibata Shihan. But if that is really the case it means it is time to put an end to this endless checking out other teachers and basically saying goodbye to some people..atleast for now. But then you hear about some students who can study with many teachers at once. Ok..let's hear it.

Not pissed at all bro! This is a "Forum". Let's think of the Taobums Taoist Discussion like the Place in Ancient Rome where people could talk freely and without fear or apprehension. Totally cool with me man! i am the first to admit I dont' know shit just sharing my experiences! However..please refrain from critisizm of Max or Kunlun on my persnal cultivation journal. Thanks, Cam

Probably right. Still 2 feels fair and balanced. Though I am debating 3.

Yeah..good point Vortex..maybe it's like 2 a t atime(or whatever). Probably these 2 can keep me busy for a good lifetime though..will see.

Interesting question though. My sense is that Sifu Max and Jiang Sifu(And I am guessing Wang Liping) are all on the highly developed tier(though probably used different methods to get where they are.) The major difference? Sifu Max was born in America, teaching in an open way and is affordable

And of course if you guys want the fun with lots of people vibe ASU in Tempe is a cool hangout..we can sit around the colelge bars/coffehouses..Yoda and I hung out over there last time he came out.

Let's make a list of all the things people might like to do and then be open to maybe throwing that list out and doing whatever after you get transmission. Ok..here is my Top 5 1. Have Max or Max's students take us on a little adventure in the Desert. 2. Go home..turn off the lights..relax and drool all over myself(most likely scenario) 3. Drive around town(My Honda can probably fit 5) 4. Hike up Camelback Mountain, South Mountain or Yodas favorite Piestawa Peak. 5. Hang out at Qlites Dojo and practice martial arts/play board games/video games and order Pizza and Coke.

I just need to say this... All this talk of parties and ge togethers is nice but should not be the focus imo. You guys are going to be sitting with someone the level of which I am guessing you havent before. The reality is(as happened to me) after you get the transmission you really don't know what you may do. You may want to be left alone in your hotel room. You may want to hang out with Max or his students. You may want to go into the desert. You may want to go to a strip club Bottom line..let's not get too much into the 'planning'. Have some sense of what people would like to do..but also leave room for the possibilty that any sort of plan or thing to do or whatever might get thrown out the window..as it did for me. For this reason my feeling is it would be ebst for everyone to get there own room in case they need some space to process. Don't get me wrong..I am also down to get some board games..Candyland..Operation...Hungry Hippo and go out into the desert or even hang a tmy apartment or Qlites Dojo or whatever..just no tellin'

Not telling my Dad about the workshop bro. I am sure we can have plenty of fun on our own

I am fine doing whatever The Learner says is appropriate. Cam

Pillars of Bliss by Lama Dorje. Buy..read...do..

Go with the flow.

I have a teacher at school now who..and I could literally see this and it was actually rather funny..sort of in the us vs. them we need to arm nuclear weapons to the teeth mode. It's wild to meet people with this strong programming because it's like....You can't see how clearly destructive and arrogant your views are for the Earth? Maybe Al Gore knew what he was talking about after all ps. I don't judge or blame people with these views because I know that build up of fear energy can be so powerful. Let's face it.

Yes. This is another example of people getting stuck in male/felmale paradigm. There was a great movie out few years ago of a young black boy who wa smolested by his family but grew up and overcame it. Ahhh..what was that called?

Max says the energy is not just like water but a downward swimming water snake. Kunlun energy is a cool energy and magnetic. It is different than Kundalini. The way Chris described the snake head as being the tailbone and the tail up the body was very helpful. And also I think will help me chill a little. Also..my initial strong reaction was due atleast partily to opening up strongly to Red Phonix without opening up as strongly to Kunlin. I would say you want the Kunlun practice well devleoped before opening up to Red Phoenix. I cant' say I regret learning it at this point. Because as Mas has told me it is the combintation of both Kunlun Level 1 and Red Phoenix that is very good. In any case..I am happy to be the Kunlun ginny pig and hope people in SF get whatever they are looking for.

Awesome question! I basically live on my cell phone but remeber it being mentioned there were some negative things about them...

Have to improve on an individual basis.

VeeCee sorry to hear about your experience. I think this is more of a widespead issue than most people care to admit. My sense is we are just clueless as a culture when it comes to sexual energy-the most powerful and potentially beautiful energy inside us. My sense is there is just a huge gap of people not being taught how to 'handle' there energy in a balanced way. One of the most inspiring things I have heard in my life is when Lama Max said how children are taught this stuff from an early age. So they get the awakening stuff and energy cultivaiton stuff in the Temple from an early age. We are just soooooo beginners over here. Probably we knew alot before in ancient times but lost it somehow. Anyway, I enver went through anything like what sounds like you did. But the sex arena can be either amazingly awesome or unpleasant as you know of course. But after being with Lama Max really feels like for the first time it's ok to just open up and relaz about all that sort of stuff. Almost like we are all just children having these different learning experiences and hopefully growing along the path. Love, Cameron

Chris, I had asked Max about this in private and my sense was basically it is best to keep this practice to yourself. However, I keep getting the sense people here and there are sort of 'asking' to be told about the Phoenix seminar. Should I just start telling people about it? I mean..are there any signs to look for that it is good to share the practice and Max coming to town? My sense is sitting with Max, even for a weekend, is potentially life changing yet I also want to honor the tradition and lineage. Sort of the no pearls before swine thing. But is that just an ego projection? Any feedback on any level to help with this would be much,much appreciated. C

somewhat interesting! http://news.aol.com/story/ar/_a/worlds-old...S00010000000001

Balance!

I won't be making it. I have some laundry, homework and stuff to do that weekend. *kidding to infinity*

Thanks...we are not exactly taught this stuff in kindergarden..you know