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A number of years ago i had the good fortune to be able to pet / stroke a full grown tiger. it was not at all soft and silky - it felt like rough wirey rope

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Wilhelm / Baynes is both

Since i wasn't asked i like the Wilhelm / Banes I used it for my I Ching paintings

Check out Carol Anthonys' books. They don't . however, deal with tcm or martial arts Da Liu - Tai Chi Chuan and the I Ching

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No. You got it backwards One is All As Woody Woodpecker would say "That's All folks"

You could compare the paths / ways to enlightenment. Enlightenment is enlightenment there is no difference

When i said taiji is a moving qigong i wasn't referring to it being taught as qigong - rather it gives the same health benefits as qigong. The Indians of India were fierce warriors and had/ have some powerful martial arts as witnessed in the Bhagavagita and google (LOL) - so Hatha yoga may be conditioning for their martial arts.

This stopped my mind. Is it a Zen koan Please explain

All my teachers have always said to relax and breath naturally - the breath will take care of itself.

Some as you can do both from the beginning especially if they have had training in other forms. For most it is learn the movements first unconnected external than work on connections and internal.

I have seen beginners doing taijiquan and they are moving like beginners. Ask them and they will tell you it feels wonderful - so something is happening. Qi Gong feels good right away same as taijiquan - IMHO - notice i'm being humble here - many a qigong player is just doing external movements. It takes time to be internal. I feel both are getting benefits from the get go. Taiji quan is a moving qigong.

In the same sense how long does it take for Qigong to become Qigong?

hare hare Bunnies are born tantric yogis

What Taomeow said

I like to think of it as un-conditioning / un-learning / counter-intuitive

I keep my tongue on the roof of my mouth behind my teeth most of the time. one can do an experiment by placing your tongue on the roof of your mouth while doing something and then removing it. You can feel the energetic difference. More connected/centered with it on then off

Maybe enlightenment is realizing how little you know

Hey Chang I must apologize to you Somehow i read your post as coming from Chi Dragon and my response was for him. Somehow he responded to my post to you as if it was intended for him which it was. The universe works in mysterious ways. Now i have to admit he has psychic powers along with his intellectual taiji powers LOL So once again my bad

Now you are taking this topic off topic. Please start a new thread.

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