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Is this necessary. What are you cultivating

I wasn't being negative. The panel of experts was definately negative. Calling something bullshit that you haven't tried or have no knowledge of IMHO is being negative and not worth a response. I only responded because there are some people here who are open minded and should not be influenced by narrow vision. I define the success of this method as people being worried and unhappy immediately smiling or laughing and no longer worried or unhappy after using this method. I have watched Gangaji videos on public access tv and the results seem to be consistant. Check it out for yourself. We call the method Zen because we read about it in Zen books. Maybe Ramana Marhashi read zen books as a child

First of all I wish to thank the panel of experts who haven't tried the method they are putting down. The panel excells at speculation and intelluctual mind games. The method question "Who am I" is presently used by Gangaji. It seems to be used by ordinary people easily and successfully.

Get into the gaps and banana republics Shop shop till you drop

One way to not be nervous is to picture the other interviewer naked. Maybe in this case you should picture the interviewer fully clothed

Sweat, tears, blood, sweat, tears. Sing me songs of yesteryear. The beetles are gone

Cameron what are you smoking or too much kunlun 5 Guess I'll wash my feet! - 5 7 body,mind and spirit one. - 7 5 slow/ly un/fold/ing to re/veal truth - 9 Guess I'll wash my feet and the feet of holy ones. This will cleanse our soul

Snowflake floating down... soon to turn brown from dog shit Everything is god.

illuminate air Darkening earthly shadows I now seek balance

"Why would being fully temporary be considered enlightening?" Could you please explain or rewrite the above sentence. One might think of being fully human as having removed or transcended those obstacles i.e ego that keep one from being fully human.

Zippruanna was able to hang out in garbage and smear feces on himself and emit a wonderful fragrance. I guess you had to be there He did that to keep people away. It's interesting that you would remember and focus on that. There were probably some pretty wild taoists in the past and maybe even in the present. Zippruanna was not Muktananda's guru. Nityananda, who either naked or in a scanty loin cloth was. Enlightenement is fully alienated for those with that personality type - they probably hung out alone before the big E Muktananda was not like that at all. He was well dressed and fastidious in his appearance. One of the things he taught me was to be impeccable in my actions and dealings with people. I think we always retain our particuliar personality no matter where we are on the path. We become more of what we are. At the same time we change in certain ways - that about covers all bases. I would hazard a guess and hazard is the correct word here that when you had your experiences you didn't have a teacher , guru, guide, whatever to guide you. I do like the idea that to be enlightened is to be fully human and believe it to be so. It gets harder and harder to turn your back on life.

The reason I said you gotta be kidding was because of the general tone of your post and specifically the part where you said if I was lucky some day you would tell us the stages of enlightenment. You read as either you were putting me on or were full of yourself. I had no idea at the time that you just like to confuse issues. So I guess I was right you were kidding.

Yes an excellent article. The force on force is really a non issue until you engage someone or push hands.

and Li Po's drunk ghost with Chiao Chi sharing some wine and zen of poetry On Myself I was not chosen to head the dragon list, Nor was my name entered into the biography of worthies; From time to time I'm a sage of wine, Finding everywhere the zen of poetry- Highest graduate of the college of clouds and mists, Drunken angel of rivers and lakes, My talks and jokes are for the Imperial Academy of Compilation. Loitering, I've been writing commentaries on the wind and moon for forty years. Chiao Chi 1280 - 1345

My vote 6. Revealing the Tao Te Ching: In-depth Commentaries on an Ancient Classic by Hu Xuezhi

Dusk settles the wind Birds sing one final chorus I am not alone

Every sip an eternity of joy My tea is better than yours i am enlightened

Starjumper if your enlightened I don't want to go there.

I liked the book. He sounds like he's in a good place.

Where is the way home? There are so so many paths. The sea doesn't ask.

Does without doing and still doesn't with doing A trip that must be.

Ya got me. We do keep enlightening as we go. What i meant by fully enlightened was the point at which you don't go back - you remain in this state - you do go forward. It's really so hard to speak about something that one is ignorant about. Don't you agree? A bit like Woody Allen explaining baseball to Martians. As far as one philosophy - religion - path being better than another well i'm not so sure about that. One path may suit an individual more than another but that doesn't make it better.