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Which is precisely why you do not do anything with it.

hi Jeff! You would want a simple answer…❤ Have you ever felt lucky? Feeling lucky is a tingling relationship with other. This is not a person. It's not you. It's potential. When you're feeling lucky, seal it away and forget about it. Nothing will happen~ over and over and over. That is an example of what it feels like and what to do with it. After a long time, it becomes you as you respond to conditions. ed note: typed six more lines

C T and A Seeker left this for edification and inspiration! This discussion of sameness from start to finish is addressing enlightening activity after seeing essence; after dropping off dropping off. After one has turned the light around to illuminate the self and attain suchness, there is still practicing suchness. This is where Dogen really shines. Having spoken almost exclusively of this for years now, it is not surprising to see that when describing advance practice, most people only want to conceive of before leading to noumenon, and have no idea of gradual practice after sudden realization— even though the bulk of what I have read of Dogen's work (or have read into his work) addresses enlightening activity after seeing one's original face. To be sure— IT IS ONLY AFTERWARDS WHICH IS TO BE TERMED ENTRY-LEVEL. Before is a dream because you don't know it is. Afterward is a dream too, but you know it. There are a few reasons for this lack of understanding— Obviously, the foremost would be having no idea what comes before, much less after— I only write about it because hardly anyone addresses the practical issues of enlightening being. I'm not being critical; I only offer the suggestion that one ponder the truth that nothing is gained by realization and that the point (before leading to after) is seamless simply because mind is one, not two. The realization is knowing there are no two minds— that there is no person nor has creation ever existed in perpetuity. One must still observe causelessness of the unmanifest as equal to causelessness of the manifest because this is the function of the tao. There is always that which is even beyond the tao. Who goes there? Enlightening practice is none other than employing the power of realization to match creation in ordinary situations in order to respond decisively and precisely. This is becoming the tao in reality~ it is also expertise. This is not about acting! This is about making creation nonexistent without negating phenomena in everyday ordinary situations because its true and it works. There is no doing. It works. One must enter the mystery oneself; there are no shortcuts and there is nothing to understand. The other main reason for not seeing the open secret plain as day before you, much less recognizing the ancients' description of its practical nature and inconceivable function is because it is mind. Therefore they (mundane and absolute) are not two. The same description suffices when talking about essence, function and substance. From my perspective, the value of the path and its derivative lore is learning that awareness is all the magical, mysterious, inconceivable world we live in. I am only an explorer sharing hard-won experience. Taoists steal potential and take over creation. I describe how to do it. Stealing potential is only possible for those who see it. One takes over creation by not using it. This ain't no TTC bullshit, kids. Laotzu the wizard wasn't just wise— the wizard knew the secret of non-existence and endeavored to leave its traces in this world. The method is soft; its application is open. There is no person. First it is necessary to drop off dropping off. Obviously, one must already have dropped off— hence the admonition for alchemists to first see essence, only then seek a teacher. Mind you, before and after isn't the critical juncture! What is most important in practice at any level is the order. I only say this because some rush ahead while others lag behind, missing the timing and bringing on harm to themselves and others where none existed. Knowing there is before and after; one yin and one yang equal change; make other the host and you be the guest, make the work possible and effective. I would like to say there is a moral exigency to the path and for some who must make that the point of it all~ that's fine, but I don't. See essence first. We ARE essence. When you see that~ what use is your own enlightenment?!! Don't worry about it at all! Enlightenment is useless. Enlightenment is seeing essence out of this world. But if you can see essence working in this world, you are already beyond entry-level enlightenment and the aftermath of dropping off dropping off and you already are in position to steal potential and take over creation in everyday ordinary situations unbeknownst to anyone. The only way to work with essence is to see it. Seeing it only happens according to celestial timing. In order to see essence, on must first be ready. Being ready is made possible by refining one's self. That is why the classic taoist saying is "Refine yourself and await the time." So it is not really necessary to be puffed up in your own little place of white-hot enlightenment~ on the contrary, the conceit of realization is to be dispensed with altogether. The Chan admonition is after you have washed off dirt with soap, rinse off the soap with water. Enlightenment is just as bad as delusion— that is why I talk about dropping off dropping off. Its also why the ancients say nothing is to be gained by enlightenment. Practicing suchness isn't going off to practice something; doing something. Suchness is the open secret here before your eyes right now. There are no two suchnessess; Reality IS hidden in our midst, but it's not different …it's the same. So when you hear "seek essence on your own, then seek a teacher", don't think you need complete perfect enlightenment. Seeing essence is seeing reality; only you know instantaneously for yourself. Your innate living awareness knows~ is the water cold or not? The meaning of seeking a teacher is (1), because your essential nature cannot be given by another nor can it be found outside of ones own body (which is inherently powerful) so it necessitates (2), employing wisdom so one shouldn't act on thoughts; one must resist the impulse to act. If you act, you turn potential into illusion (ei: not allowing it to naturally revert into nonpsychological awareness). You can't absorb illusion~ only potential. Buddhists call this "saving energy", So it is imperative not to act. The way to do that is to set up other as the host (ie: the teacher) and you be the guest (the student). One begins to see essence to the degree one is unwilling to use it. "Stealing potential" is code for dealing with phenomena without speculating on phenomena consciously, unconsciously or otherwise. When other becomes the host, one uses the world to refine oneself; not indulge oneself. Using illumination as a guide, one does not use the mind to create illusion. When one becomes the guest, one can then rest by not acting, awaiting the direction of potential while taking advantage of self-refinement in the context of not acting as a strategy for absorbing the undifferentiated. This is attaining suchness by practicing suchness. This set-up is created by you to hunt power. It's a trap. You don't know when and where the rabbit is going to pop up. No one is being fooled. You have the strategy and discipline is the means. This is the alchemy I practice. It is based on reality in reality as reality. Otherwise it is an illusion useless to all who have no mind for karmic shenanigans. There are those with the capacity to accomplish this process, that is all. I only write for those who want to hear this process. This is the same as the teaching of the Yin Convergence Classic. How is this so different from "attaining suchness by practicing suchness without delay"? This is neither false nor true. This is entry into the Inconceivable. Do you see essence or not? If you do then you can know stepping over eternity, stealing potential, taking over creation and make your abode under that tree in the homeland of nothing whatsoever. Making this your abode, you turn the Dharma wheel without leaving your place, and it is the same wherever you stay or go. ed note: acknowledge C T and A Seeker's contribution to this thread and also to parenthesize "before leading to after" in the fourth paragraph, added "without negating phenomena" in the fifth and embellished the biggest paragraph to my heart's desire~ haha!!❤

Dear, please see someone in person about your condition. And please report your findings/results on this thread, hmmm? There are some on this forum who might be able to learn a little from your experience, ok!❤

hi suninmyeyes~ i tooks a long breath …now i will exhale— hahahha!!❤ You do not see her radiantly Thereafter the vehicle is greatness Her fashion uncanny With manners clearly disarming Her weight upon you Still she moves How do you perceive The vision dispelling appearances Radiance has no particular order Manifesting or not continuously. Times proceed naturally As if it were. There is nothing else to do Since she has never had a notion To be …or otherwise. Her Vehicle is the time of subsuming It is great because we can use it effortlessly. This is not doing So we wait freely associating discipline In order to recognize the times. Discipline is an opening Within which nothing passes. Nothing easily passes through As neither stillness nor movement Can match the freedom Of her uncanny fashion. You allow this with awareness that Only knows of the times. Its like seeing without saying Saying without fail Nothing is worth The Trouble. As for her charms She is clearly disarming As for her manners You know without words With what could this be compared? Moving ourselves is trying to compare unawares. Yet she moves us without trying Allowing entry into the inconceivable Her weight upon you Pressing up in mutual response The time is re-ordered In selfless withdrawl. Still she moves But discipline's opening Allows even her radiance to pass through without our clinging; Wherein one matches potential Without bias or discrimination As we absorb the undifferentiated. How do you perceive the vision dispelling appearances? Ed note: remembers to say hi to suninmyeyes!!

joeblast: Plus what HE just said! Open sincerity without intending phenomena is a reasonable space to aim for in this kind of observing/experiencing mind (Which is no different in practice from enlightening activity in everyday ordinary situations). Just don't rush ahead; all you need do is recognize potential as you maintain a subtle consistency of openly sincere concentration. It is emptiness that beckons fulfillment. Ultimate stillness is already there where you find it. Movement comes naturally. When the celestial moves, respond; otherwise bide the time innocently as the celestial timing is not the result of human effort. At the right time of fullness, seal the pot; don't keep it on the fire, yet don't let it cool off. Be careful and attentive without being insistent. Even energy-work just comes in stages; keep silent (to yourself) about its workings. Ultimately, there is no one who knows; everyone experiences these things for themselves. Even so, the particularities in terms of experiencing phenomena isn't terribly significant in the long run as these things are kind of like running a fixing permissions session on a computer. At some point there is nothing to fix …wherein one simply drops off altogether at the right time; and no one knows why. Ed. note: Add "(Which is no different in practice from enlightening activity in everyday ordinary situations)"

I liked that you shared that dreaming technique from the DMT doc, Mark! That it is like that never ceases to amaze.

❤!!

It only takes one time, Scotty. If you have actually severed the root once, it is severed forever.

Hi Scotty! No worries~ Would you mind telling me how many times have you overcome yourself, so far?

Scotty said: This may be a strategy of distinctions not yet penetrating the root. That which chooses to decide to surrender by overcoming still has not given up picking and choosing. Objective awareness is not a matter of surrendering one for another. Achievement is in having forgotten the mind that creates distinctions. One with mettle has no deliberations overcoming or surrendering for a lifetime of forgotten thoughts and feelings.❤

Where did you find the term yourself, Sky?

I know of only four transcriptions attributed to Bodhidharma: 1. Outline of Practice 2. Bloodstream Sermon 3. Wake-up Sermon 4. Breakthrough Sermon I only have this little book translated by Red Pine called The Zen Teaching of Bodhidharma.

yum!❤

ahhahaahahhahahhahhaaa!!❤ I should not be so sassy~ forgive moi!

Yes, Marblehead!

I would not dare to invite entities anywhere! I have already dealt with the uninvited ones more than I've wanted to, Gary~ haha!!❤

Earth wouldn't be natural, but for following. Earth is the center in the symbology of taoism's shamanic roots. It's color is yellow. It is the blonde woman, the go-between in the alchemy of fire and water, the creation of things. Heaven creates, whereas tao is followed by riding its virtue. The second hexagram earth is emblematic of the mare. The mare can go anywhere the stallion can yet it continues by following. Man continues in the heaven of virtue by virtue of the quality of earth— not by heaven; this is the creative: heaven's action is in openness. This is the design of the celestial order. The Virtue of the Receptive is immediate acquiescence, which is responding, not leading. The way of earth is in following. The heaven of following is in Virtue. Virtue is the offspring of the way. Those who know nonorigination receive its virtue and can thereby ride preternaturally independent within creation equal to the way in reality. LaoTzu's description of the wordless should not be clung to word for word. How can then one operate freely and enter into the inconceivable? Exchanging writ for rote, one seeks understanding, yet what of the marvelous is known to the mind of rote? If you don't know, what's to understand? If you do know, what's to understand? Seeking by words can be seen in this. Who can exchange intellectual surety for the darkness of earth? Earth is comprised of six dark weak yin lines; passive, yet actively adaptable. Enlightening activity is impersonally responding to ordinary affairs in selfless adaptivity to circumstances: this is the meaning of preternaturally independent within creation equal to the way in reality. This is an inconceivable operative freely adapting in broad daylight. How could one ever know this freedom by clinging to the words? Man following earth following heaven following tao-in-itself=People who can follow potential then effortlessly ride the creative expression of the way. Potential is the gold of earth. Self-refinement is picking the real out of the false. If not for the false, there would be no way to find the real. Picking the pure out of the polluted, one sees through circumstances without negating characteristics; following the virtue of the way, naturally one stands outside the ordinary cycles of creation. A king is great by virtue of the way, not in it's title of being. Which is named? Which is natural? Tao is return; this is its nothing followed. Nonoriginated, it is only itselflessness~ by virtue of which, there is following. Therein is the expression of naturalness. (ed note: change last line from "How can the tao follow its nature?" to "Tao is return; this is its nothing followed.")