deci belle

I don't get where this faction is going with the "no ego" thing …or not going with it, as it were. Is this real taoist balderdash and poppycock? What, can anyone tell, is the point of emphasizing the absence of the "e" word, yet ignoring the reference to its effects in the taoist canon? What are you all going to accomplish, or avoid, by doing so? To me it is a non-issue, but there must be a reason to cling to the notion that it simply does not exist as a concept in taoism. Little1 also used this criteria to dismiss a valid point of self-refinement that another bum made that had nothing to do with you-know-what (b-b-b-b-b-bbb). What is accomplished by being "correct" about "the taoist canon before a certain date has no mention of the word ego"? Is it just a way to be finally free or differentiated or aloof from you-know-who? If that's all it is, clue me in— otherwise, it seems to me like petty intellectualist nonsense that could not be further from the teaching of actualization of reality effecting free and complete human being. Furthermore, how does this sticking point have anything to do with the subject of this thread, which is a crucial aspect of perception? The teachings are about people, not about words. Words negating the importance of the single psychological element obstructing natural employment of objectivity within a vast and comprehensive teaching on a linguistic technicality is patently absurd. Why say them? Little1 admitted that he tried, but that he can't deal with dealing with ego, because there is no end to it. I told him, "Fair enough", and left it at that. But it is a big mistake to fool others, beginners especially~ in saying that ego (in terms of the matter of life and death, ie, the person that dies) isn't recognized and dealt with from beginning to end in taoist teaching tradition. I challenge the mods to create yet another forum titled the "no ego" forum, so I won't hound or ignore y'all. Because the tao is the way to follow the way, taoism is effective in pointing the way to capable ego-enabled people— not ego-challenged people. Potential for realization isn't a matter of entitlement or philosophical orientation. Ultimately, taoism doesn't exist either— not to mention the fact that there is that which is beyond the tao. Taoism is about people. Taoism exists by and for people to discover what they really are. And to that end, self-refinement in order to interrupt the human mentality is the established and unavoidable way to realize selfless living aware potential energy in its perpetual uncreated non-dwelling state. The human mentality is the seat of ego— refute that. Or, how did any of you arrive at the essence of impersonal nonorigination? If you did, then you know it's not you. Since you only exist by virtue of ego, and ego isn't there, why latch on to your foolishness here? What are you pimping? Tell you what. I'll let you off the hook if you can say why ego isn't a taoist concept. Hmmmmmmm? I'm not talking about right or wrong or true and false! Do you know?!! Sure is a lot easier just to say that ego ain't taoist, huh. If you just want to perpetuate a style of intellectual taoism for your own personal reasons, I would appreciate it if you would state those reasons here and now for all of us— so nobody gets fooled. This is not a trifling matter. If you mean the tao has no ego— well then OK— but that's not what you are saying. What you are saying is that there is no mention of the word "ego" in certain taoist documents. BIG WOOP. Pure pedantic literalist hypocrisy and useless, harmful and misleading meandering. Let's leave the subject of clever multiple contextual mid-sentence usage of the root-word "object" to the etymological foot-noters. None of you, I hope.❤ (ed:adding "is" in 5th paragraph, adding "saying" in 6th paragraph)

When I read of the human mentality, it seems to be a code-word for the ego-reflective function.

Picnic~ I only read a teeny bit so far… how wonderful it is— and I adore your name!!!❤❤ Pop-pop-pop!! hahaha❤

It is exactly the point of Union, the 8th hexagram's ruling 5th line: "The king employs three chasers and loses those running out the front."

Turning the attention around to gaze inward is precisely what is the content of the Secret of the Golden Flower. Highly recommended.

heehee!!!❤ Is there a chapter on dying naturally?

Just open your heart completely, sfvii. Accept yourself unconditionally right now. If you're lucky, nothing will happen.

No.

haha~ times without number, mon ami!❤

Oh Mr. Marblehead!! hahaa!! May vous has your miniskirts and bikinis regularly et often~ and meet them too!!❤ heehee!!!

It is what doesn't think, Marblehead. The brain is an organ. Self-reflection is over-arched by nondiscursive, nonpsychological awareness. A common expression is "I feel it in my gut." Intuitive, direct knowing is like this. So it is not about the brain. The body is a sensual instrument— the brain is mostly a localized electrical junction— albeit with special organs within it capable of subtleties of the science of Life. Intellectualism is ego-relative, whereas what doesn't think isn't part of the self-reflective matrix of ego awareness. Similarly, though the brain be a crucial complex including significant parts within it, it importantly controls passive functions. The seat of awareness is a mystery you can discover for yourself— I assure you, the human brain isn't it. But I will admit that properties of subtle mental capacity locate that which has no location. Do not ever focus energy on any point in the body, especially any part of the head!!! Not only is it utterly futile— it is extremely harmful!! Not often mentioned is the fact that there is that which lies beyond even the source of immaterial, impersonal living aware energy. Fancy that! Mind is empty in and of itself already. It is even void of emptiness. Not a thing, unborn, awake, without thoughts, silent and still, yet open and sincere, calm and unperturbable, clear and free— no different than the completely real self. Try to let what isn't this mind just evaporate. It's not easy, yet it isn't hard either. Just let go of the ordinarily valuable and capable self-reflective mind's habitual ramblings. As the rambling dissipates you recognize potential that is hidden by the human mentality. Learning to be free of dependent attachment to mental habituation is the work. What is residual in this living aware potential is the shining mind. Enliven the shining mind and kill the human mentality. After a long time, it will feel more natural to rest in the shining mind and employ the human mentality when necessary. Now it is the human mentality that dominates and traps the shining mind within clouds of ignorance and fear, while the shining mind has long since been forgotten and atrophied— only shining through the ego-reflective matrix occasionally. When life itself become a constant meditation, we realize that orthodox meditation practices were simply a temporary expedient. So you can see that functioning from within the shining mind as a matter of course is a major accomplishment requiring periods of intense effort as well as relaxed, centered abiding over a long period of time— yet the accomplishment itself as merely an entry-level evolution, is really a model for the work that follows. There is a lot of mysticism attached to the developments within hard-won evolutions of self-refinement, yet even these are devices. So when you get down to it, being unminding in everyday ordinary situations is what is required to be unminding in everyday ordinary situations. How mysterious is that? When the mind doesn't stir inside, the world doesn't arise outside. Activating the mind without dwelling on anything comprises the entire Buddhist canon. Ultimately, both the world and the mind are illusions, and both buddhas and ordinary people are all phantoms. So why should forgetting conventions and simply stepping over eternity to enter inconceivability be a big deal? It's not for those who gaze into open clarity. If one is called, one just goes without hesitating. Now has it's own criteria and fulfillment. Is there something logical enough in this reply to build upon (or to facilitate stripping away)? (ed: wasn't finished, I guess…)

Ya bear poop is so …poopy!!❤ hahahaha! (ed: misspell poop)