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Well perhaps, but these other traditions haven't produced any enlightened beings lately that I have heard about. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, but I see the lei shan dao as an accelerated path to enlightenment which may make it possible within ones lifetime.

hi mat black I'm mat wight haha... no seriously.. anyway... the reason I am pursuing the lei shan dao is enlightenment. To be honest I want to wake up and leave this place. I have known this world is illusory since my teens, I have since fallen down the rabbithole even more. To be honest I am tired, and I want to leave. I am trying to find the best, and fastest exit from the matrix. I view paths which develop these powers as more validated than those that don't. I believe that the manifestation of these powers is visible feedback which is necessary to validate the practice, but is not the end goal itself. Enlightenment is my end goal, so I guess development of ESP would be my primary focus, however I want to train in an art where I can have directly observable milestones. Right now I am trying to amass as much information as I can for a 2-4 year wilderness retreat I am planning. I currently have a wonderful teacher in a branch of neigong (sorry can't reveal further info), but he can only take me so far as he is still a student himself. I do eventually intend to train with Dr. Verdesi, but his price is astronomical. I will have to live in my car and work full time just to be able to afford one class per year..

it was interesting, I just thought you meant they were discussing higher dimensions.. my bad

Spiritual Enlightenment: The Damnedest Thing -Jed McKenna Spiritually Incorrect Enlightenment -Jed McKenna I must say this guy has some balls, he comes right out and says it. The one fear we all hope is unfounded, that our lives, loved ones, ego, identity, possessions, world and reality are merely illusions. He comes out and says it, and documents his followers having psychotic reactions to this realization. Not for the timid, or weak of heart... These books are like nothing I have ever read, they are a very fascinating read. These are up on mininova I think as audiobooks if anyone is bored enough to listen.

I listened but they didn't seem to say too much.

Great! Thanks so much

hello thelerner, I have studied spring forest Qigong levels 1-4, Robert Peng's Elixer Light Healing Qigong, Robert Bruce's "New Energy Ways" system. I am also taking introductory training in a branch neigong but cannot go into further detail, about it.

thanks! I will check into that. I do plan to study with my current master until he has no more to teach me, then I plan on saving up and training with David in China.