mwight

Yes I seek to become a taoist immortal. I know my physical body will die, but I am trying to evolve my spirit to a level so that at the point of death I am no longer subject to rebirth. A being which can exist in the physical world, interact with it just as they did before, and not need a physical body. Maybe it is bananas, only time will tell.

From what I have seen personally woman are more in tune with yin water and earthly energies, on top of that they can take all the yang they need via sex from men, very quickly and easily. In my opinion they have a huge leg up on men, in terms of subtle body development.

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Well I have noticed that since I have been accumulating yang for such a long time women in real life situations are drawn to me like moths to a porch light (unless I work to actively conceal it). I can assure you when you reach a certain critical level of energy women seek you out, and are very determined and aggressive to have you. Right now my excuse is I only date Taoists/Buddhists, that works relatively well. I agree women are a lot more in balance with nature than most men. I also don't think my goals are very natural, most people die and are reborn again, stopping that process isn't very natural in my opinion.

I am only speaking from personal experience, I try to figure stuff out on my own via observation, not just take all that I study and read by Qigong, Neikung masters as gospel. I was only speaking from personal experience. I can feel the flow of energy in my own body, and sex with a female I am significantly drained(1-2 week setback). Also heavy meals can be draining, emotional trauma, also masturbation can be very detrimental to energetic development. Sex is certainly a very energetic exchange of energy, which isn't a big deal to the vast majority of people. I doubt 1 in 100000 people are serious cultivators here in the western world. I have broken my addiction as you say, I simply release the pent up energy and recirculate it, purify it and then store it in my naval charkra. The end result isn't sexual energy at all, so much as distilled yang energy. Again I think women have a huge advantage over men (in the energetic development dept), not only are they more in tune with nature and energies, yin, etc. they have access to a virtually unlimited supply of yang energy. If I could be born again and keep my memories as a female I would do so.

Maybe there truly are symbiotic relationships like that. If anyone is lucky enough to find such a thing I sincerely hope they treasure it. I don't personally have the time or desire to search for such a thing, and I prefer being in isolation. I was born alone and I assume I will die that way also. Buddha woke by his own efforts, and I believe I can also. Again I don't intend to offend, be harsh, or cold. I just am speaking from my own experience. While relationships have been wonderful things in their own right, they have only hindered my energetic development. Relationships have always been (for me at least) a drain financially, temporally, emotionally, and energetically, but I gained friendship, companionship, vented sexual frustrations. I guess for most it is an equivalent trade, for some the fear of being lonely is a very scary thought indeed, and their sexual frustrations percolate subconsciously into their everyday life. Complete and total isolation is one of my favorite things. I enjoy it so much I dread having to work my measly 2 days (2x 16 hour shifts) to support myself. Also my sexual frustrations are not nearly as bad as I would have believed them to be at this point. I dedicate hours to removing the excess energy and then purifying it then storing it. I also notice women are puzzled over me, I don't even produce an echo when they scan me with their radar. Must be my SR71-Stealth Qi vibe I have going on. I remember once this gorgeous 19 year old I work with asked if I was a robot, I found that one quite humorous. She said she couldn't read me at all, and I didn't act like other guys, I felt strange. I told her I must be doing my job right then

I agree that is the natural process yes. Women and children are not evil for taking energy. Lions are not evil for hunting their prey either. It's how nature works. In my view though it is also natural to die and then be reborn again into another body. That process is what I am hoping to stop. So I guess my goals are a bit un-natural to say the least. In my own observations giving in and sleeping with a woman just one night can easily obliterate months of practice. Weeks worth of training are lost for masturbation. It just seems silly to me to throw all that time down the drain, just repeat the cycle again in another few months. The point I am trying to make for a serious male cultivator is that sex sets you back so much it isn't worth it. The Buddha called his own son, Rahula or "chain". He also said: "He who loves 50 people has 50 woes; he who loves no one has no woes." -- Siddhartha Buddha In my opinion emotional energy is easy to obtain via metta (universal compassion, loving kindness) meditation. You can even remove your own excess pent up sexual energy and move it to the heart area to convert it to metta energy directly. The only point I am trying to make is not that women and babies are evil, only that they pose a significant roadblock to male cultivators at least in my opinion.

Witch, I hope I didn't offend you. I was merely commenting on my own personal observations. I didn't intend to offend you. I believe women have a huge advantage in the energetic development dept. over men, if I could be born female knowing what I do now I would most likely do so.

I have always had an extremely high libido. I have always also been in tune with my partners needs sexually, rhythms, pressures, unique areas for stimulation, etc.. I have always prided myself in knowing my stuff in the bedroom dept, pleasing my partner was always my highest priority. I have never really had much trouble getting pretty much any woman I wanted. Even now I still have ex's who call me up on a regular basis to try to persuade me out of celibacy. I have been able to strongly feel the flows of energies inside my own body, and use that to generate a charismatic radiance. I could usually turn this up and burn brighter and get any female I desired. One thing I have noticed is that after sex I was drained, no not tired, but my energies were drained. It took about 1-2 weeks to be at my peak again. I have noticed that woman seem to crave this energy, almost like vampires. And during orgasm they actively extract it from you. Since I have found qigong/neigong I have realized just how bad this REALLY is for male cultivators. Celibacy including masturbation is imho pretty much a requirement. It is not such a big deal when you learn to focus on draining and redistributing the sexual energy from your genital area, to the rest of your body. I could also see where sex would be of huge benefit to a female cultivator, they have a pretty much unlimited supply of this energy available and waiting to be given to them. It is such a crule irony.

I agree with you absolutely.

I am sure there are some wiccans who found some valid teachings, and stumble upon real power. It's just the ones I know personally don't really care about any of that. It seems more to be a culture closely tied to the goth/emo movement. It's more like they call themselves a witch for the shock value, or perhaps a rebellion against a dogmatic religious upbringing. I am not really sure to be honest. I do know that the wiccans I know really don't seem to care about higher truth, because they believe they already have it. They already have know all there is to know, and are supremely powerful. I think ritual is bogus, seals, and insignias, symbols and all that is whooey fooey.. I think obtaining true power is much simpler in concept, and harder in practice. True power imho comes not from dancing around a campfire naked with your crystals and chanting, it comes from mastering the depths of your own subconscious mind, completely and totally understanding yourself and reality at a higher level. There is nothing magickal, supernatural, etc. about it. There is no shortcut, no magick pill to speed up the process, it requires years of training, exploring the other side of your being. Gnothi Seauton! Again I didn't mean to intend to offend you, or anyone else who is wiccan, witch, warlock, or practitioner of magick.

Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Bill Hicks 1961-1994 _____________________________________________________________________________ "A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Albert Einstein _____________________________________________________________________________ It is said that soon after his enlightenment the Buddha passed a man on the road who was struck by the Buddha's extraordinary radiance and peaceful presence. The man stopped and asked, "My friend, what are you? Are you a celestial being or a god?" "No," said the Buddha. "Well, then, are you some kind of magician or wizard?" Again the Buddha answered, "No." "Are you a man?" "No." "Well, my friend, then what are you?" The Buddha replied, "I am awake."

Most Certainly Jed McKenna is awake. He has the balls to say what needs to be said, and does so very unapologetically. Bill Hicks is awake. Anyone who realizes we are all one (consciousness) and this world and all its contents (ourselves included) are illusions, is (by my definition) awake.

I don't mean to offend anyone even witches and or warlocks Please don't hex me My opinion is only based on the witches I have met personally. I have known quite a few individuals who label themselves witches (wiccan) and or practitioners of high magick. They believe (they being the ones I have met) if they construct the correct potions, with herbs and crystals and moonlight and spells, and chants, and insignia's and magickal seals, and whatnot... they can somehow cause great changes to their reality. (I aint seen it yet) I have pointed out there is no direct and immediate feedback in this process (i.e. you have to wait days, weeks, months even for the spell to kick in) and that observing the results scientifically would be impossible, unless they could produce direct and immediate effects like telekinesis etc. I have also remarked that it would be most logical to study under masters who have actually DONE something amazing, learn from them instead of trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak.. All my attempts to be rational and logical with them failed and then crashed and burned. It seems to me they (they being the ones I know) don't really care about ultimate truth, about waking up from this dream, about developing real power, they want to play dress up and make mud pies to feed to their voodoo dolls. Lots of silly ritual, no real meditation, no real search for the truth. Do I think they are evil? NO... I do however think just making up things and reading a few books written by people with no real power, and then pretending you have some great cosmic power to manipulate reality (but your still living with your parents) is delusional and heading into fruit cake territory.

Hello, I felt the other thread got way too off topic. Perhaps this thread can focus simply as a directory for Masters with such abilities that offer books, or DVDs of their teachings, rather than a debate on the subject. This could possibly apply to books/DVDs written by their advanced students also. Thanks in advance -m ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would also like to add that I do not believe in the supernatural or paranormal. There is only the natural world, anything we call supernatural is merely because of our lack of understanding of said phenomenon. I am seeking enlightenment, and more importantly liberation from this cycle of death and rebirth. That is my goal for this life, and I intend to do my very best to achieve that, and help others do the same. I view practices like the lei shan dao (lightning and thunder path) which have a level based system, and develop powers as milestones along this system, as the only viable method for accomplishing my goals in this lifetime. To be honest I view this reality as a dream, and have no interested in showing off magic tricks, or harming, or controlling other people. I want out, and the fastest and most logical method for this is finding a master who can back up his development along the path with abilities(such as robert peng, or john chang). I do already have a neigong master (cannot comment further, please don't ask) who is absolutely amazing and who can some amazing things, however I want to learn all I can from all the masters I can, so I can find my own way as I always have. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So Far..... Max Christensen (Lama Dorje): http://www.risingredphoenix.com/ Robert Peng: http://www.robertpeng.com/

I currently take Gotu Kola (which is the strongest energizing herb I have found) I also take a multivitamin, Purified Fish oil, Green Tea Extract I also eat Raw Chocolate (coco powder), White and Green tea, Spinach, Blueberries, Walnuts. Does anyone else have any recommendations?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=220132919004 Thought I would give anyone interested here a heads up... starting bid is $50 and its a $120 course...

Randi offers 1mil to anyone who can prove supernatural or occult abilities. The challenge is rigged from the get-go... there is no such thing as supernatural or occult abilities. Even John Chang explains his abilities are completely natural. Even a Level 72 Mo Pai Master would have no supernatural abilities. If Randi were really serious he would word his challenge differently. I am seeking enlightenment, and more importantly liberation from this cycle of death and rebirth. That is my goal for this life, and I intend to do my very best to achieve that, and help others do the same. I view practices like the lei shan dao (lightning and thunder path) which have a level based system, and develop powers as milestones along this system, as the only viable method for accomplishing my goals in this lifetime. To be honest I view this reality as a dream, and have no interested in showing off magic tricks, or harming, or controlling other people. I want out, and the fastest and most logical method for this is finding a master who can back up his development along the path with abilities(such as robert peng, or john chang). I do already have a neigong master (cannot comment further, please don't ask) who is absolutely amazing and who can some amazing things, however I want to learn all I can from all the masters I can, so I can find my own way as I always have. I know robert peng is one such person, and I do plan on training with him. I thought maybe other people here might know of other such masters. Thanks in advance. -m

are you serious? Thats awesome. So can Mr. Peng really generate electrical feeling qi? Does he ever teach more advanced practices?

http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Work-Healing-.../dp/1571745408/ Just finished this book, excellent guide and it will easily synergize with any other form of energy work like qigong neikung, reiki, etc...

I'll come down to $60 if anyone here wants to buy it... it cost me $120 so and its still new so I feel thats fair

dropped "buy it now" the price to $75.00 shipping included..

I like it better than the Spring Forest Qigong course. http://www.robertpeng.com/videos/lotus_meditation.mp3 http://www.robertpeng.com/videos/chop_stick.wmv http://www.robertpeng.com/videos/blake_interview.wmv http://www.robertpeng.com/ check out the chopstick video where he turns a dollar bill into a knife and cuts a chopstick in half with it... they also say he can generate electricity in his body like john chang..

From all the research I have done, the Lei Shan Dao (lighting and thunder path) contains the most advanced systems of Qigong/Nei Kung. Dr. David Verdesi seems to be the only source for western students to easily find and train in this art. But the price is beyond the reach of most middle class students. Does anyone know of any other teachers or sources of this information that don't charge so much for the teachings. I have had some instruction in the lei shan dao, spring forest qigong, robert peng's course, and robert bruces NEW system. Does anyone know of any other more advanced teachings available online, or for self study? Does anyone know of any other advanced teachers? Thanks in advance.

If you read my theory of a 6 dimensional reality, you would understand what I mean by the matrix. I mean that this world/universe and all it's inhabitants are illusory and we are trapped here believing it is real. I want out to find something which is real ( I guess what most people call God) I want to understand the ultimate nature of reality, to wake up, to leave. I see enlightenment as complete and total comprehension of the ultimate nature of reality, and liberation from the cycle of death and rebirth. I personally think only schools which can develop these powers like the lei shan dao, are valid. The reason being they are displaying higher knowledge of reality. I see these powers not as the end goal themselves but as direct and pertinent feedback about your progression along the path.