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You guys are cracking me up!! Thanks for the great laugh

.... So .... what i guess your saying is ... Dont do drugs? Cool intro, really liked it - "Oh you canght me training!" Fantastic, love it

I had an entity attached to me when i was younger (about 18) it stayed with me for around 3 yrs. It was attached to a statue that i bought at a garage sale of some type of chinese war god, It was then "activated" or i guess you could say "aggrivated" by the meditational practices that i began to explore. What followed was 3yrs of very little sleep & "visits" from whatever it was including being shaken awake & sometimes pinned to the bed - i was terrified. Whatever it was did not like what i was doing & it seemed to dislike me as a person (I could feel its intense dislike of me) Eventually i was recommended a local Priest who came to visit, the first thing he said was "Can i take that statue away with me?" - I would have given him my left nut to take away if it gave me some peace A few days later he returned with quite a story to tell about what happened back at his place that night & a few scratches & what looked like bite marks to show me! Anyway, no more problems for me since then im much older & wiser now (no laughing) & enjoying my Nei gong practice. Take care & best of luck to you if you have any trouble there are many people who can help. Bill.

A request for help to all Taobums. I have been involved almost all my life in martial arts & lately have begun to delve seriously into cultivation practices - I am enjoying it & feel i am making progress I come from a Christian family & was raised happy & healthy Throughout my life i have been constantly 'warned off' my martial arts training by Christian friends & my good ole Mum. Now im no child (36yr old bloke) but these people do get to me - they speak to me from their 'High ground' & tell me i shouldnt be doing this or that, I tell them i am seaking to know God just as they are but this seems to stir them up into a frenzy of quotes & Bible verses saying that i am being fooled by evil forces. I have 2 friends in Particular - 1, a 7th Day Adventist & the other a Jehovas Witness, they are great people & the SDA i have known since i was 5 so we are good mates Now just once i would love to quiet their judgemental ramblings toward me & what better way to do it than with the Bible itself - surely they cannot dispute it if it is written Does anyone else know of any passages or books within the Bible that do not condemn us cultivators to a fiery hell? Or anyhting else that can help me with my 'discussions' with these 2 friends of mine? Thankyou all in advance. Cheers

well ... Thankyou everyone very much for your input, There is such a wealth of knowledge out there within you all Your posts have given me a ton of material to study-thankyou I think for the moment ill take the advice of not trying to debate any points with my friends untill i can swat up a bit on this new material I have to say though, they are by no means enemies or adversaries - they are good people. Thankyou all so much once again for now ill try not to "mess with the box" & perhaps ill give my practice a different name.

Thankyou a great place to start Magitek, thankyou very much, do you have the verses that speak of Moses awakening? that sounds just what im looking for My friends are not bad people they are just trying to help me 'I guess' Phore, Yes my friends do not have any experience of cultivation or martial arts could you tell me where in the Bible some of these references are? You seem to have a very indepth knowledge - thankyou Pietro, thanks for your reply Ive discussed the benefits of martial arts & meditation with my friends & their reasoning is that these 'benefits' are false gifts bestowed upon people by demons to trick them into believing they are coming closer to God - dude they have answers for EVERYTHING Rational discussion does not work with them, they only believe the word of God - The Bible, & if its not written in there then its the path to destruction My knowledge of the Bible is only Sunday school level so thats why i need this help from The Bums. Cheers. October Gray, very wise words - thankyou.

Hey Mal, love the description of your Cat technique - how true it is

Hello King, I can really empathise with you, I do struggle a lot with abstinence I have what i consider to be a very attractive wife & my work environment is absolutely Heaving with young ladies in their prime - im a 36 yr old guy who is fit & healthy. Its a subject i raised with my teacher & he told me that basically if you want to persue this spiritual path then this is the way you do it - no if's or but's I instantly considered the question - do i really want to do this? - & came up with the answer - Hell yeh!!! I think abstinence in the end is a small price to pay for what we are all so desperately seeking I know this probably wont help you at all but at least you know you are human & there are lots of other people out there like yourself going through the same "torture" Good luck.

Wow you have the most fantastic dreams I too have strange dreams on occasion & i absolutely love them, If i can realise that im dreaming during the process - even better I enjoyed reading about yours durkhrod chogori please keep posting them.

Magitek thankyou very much for your advice, Unfortunately i cant try another position as the half lotus is the only position ive been instructed to train in - at the moment But it sounds as though i am probably incorrect in my positioning, I did think it was all knee flexibility but thinking about it now-the hips do play a major part - thankyou for your advice, ill be working a lot more on the hips now I wonder if this could be the key to attaining the most elusive-full lotus? YawningMind, thankyou for your kind words regarding my meditations good luck to yourself also & i hope life gives you all you ask from it

sounds very interesting, For me about 20 mins in half lotus after which the pain comes in my knees & ankles the pain is such that it prevents me from practicing any longer. My toes also begin to go numb & i lose the feeling in them I wonder if ignoring this & continuing is a good idea? Any comments?

When people talk of semen retention - do they mean reaching orgasm & then through some method or other keeping their semen inside (not squirting) or just not even becoming stimulated - no sex or masturbation (leaving the little fella alone). I can understand how the former may result in problems but can the latter? Any ideas?

VORTEX, are you a student of Mo Pai?

Goldisheavy - thanks for the input, i sometimes do feel that my asthma may have a psycological element eg. if i realise one day that i forgot my meds then i will feel anxiety build & tightness soon follows - however i feel that this is is probably a fear or even dread from when i was younger & had some very bad attacks, very much like what Daochild speaks about (no amount of visualisation would help). Its like going for a run but only being able to breathe through a straw while doing it. Cat - sorry i cant help but smile at your post I HAVE DONE THAT TOO - SO MANY TIMES thankyou for the advice on Cumin & Buteyko though i will look into those. Varyasattva - wow thats quite a list (a lot of sweeping) with regards to meridians & chakras-i dont know how to do it, i have recently began some Nei Gong training so hopefully that will help. & to everyone else who has offered advice - thankyou so much i am very very grateful, i thought i was stuck with this condition for ever ... but maybe im not. Mak Tin Si - This is great news ... I LOVE PEARS! I dont think my local market in Ringwood will have the chinese ones though but i can only look thankyou my friend.

Wow thankyou so much everyone for your input, I thought that steroid drugs were the only option but you have given me plenty to research. I thought that i pretty much had a handle on what Asthma "was" but you have given me a whole new angle on it, I will begin my new research now. Thanks again

Thanks Wayfarer64, Ill stear clear of that one - Im taking Beclometasone & Salbutamol sulphate at the moment & it keeps me clear Mak Tin Si, Yes if you would suggest some herbal treatment that would be fabulous & you know of a cure!? I would very much like to hear more about that Thankyou for your time.

I think people were hoping to see you help him

How close these words cut - but they are so true.... love your child but dont wrap them in cotton wool, dont cushion them with untruths, it will harm them in the long run-but of course use the discretion of your heart...it knows best

Hi Kim, Kia ora Welcome to the Tao bums from another Kiwi. Ive been grazing this site for a while & its full of great info & some real characters. Hope you like it Kia kaha.

Come on Gossamer, dont give up now Stigweard has put in a lot of work for all of you Imagine that in a very short period of time - this could all be over with ... & you could be feeling much...much better.

Stigweard its very kind of you to organise this for another You have a kind heart i hope it goes well for you Gossamer Will keep an eye on this one

.... I just read the whole 5 pages of posts & donations & its all stopped here So what are the results? - has anyone heard anything?

Hey Seek1 Wow a lot of that stuff looks awesome, thanks for the link. Im curious about after these things happen - when those things happened to me it terrified me & following the advice of a well meaning pastor i stopped all practice. Years later when i began to understand what was happening & resume my training things were nowhere near as easy Ive been practicing my meditations & experimenting with other diciplines & so far have only very briefly managed 3 similar experiences Ive heard a lot that these things come easier to pubesant young people. The journey continues...

No need to apologise Yuen Baio But since we are here - I offer you my apologies too My mouth sometimes runs away on me & i upset good people like yourself Yes there is plenty of good documentation regarding studies into Chi Gung & such & ill continue to trawl through them. Hopefully one day i will cross paths with someone who can show me what i wish to experience first hand - here with me, right in front of me ... & while i write this it does sound selfish-even to me.... but the desire is still there. & as far as my own personal practice goes ... I have spent many years chasing something i briefly experienced as a young man - with the 20yrs ive been seeking... ive only had 3 glimpses I guess this is the source of my frustration Take care & have a good one

HEY HEY HEY!! Now i know we are discussing the topic of PROOF here but c'mon... SHOW SOME RESPECT!! Chuck Norris is in a totally different league - The Chuckster does not have to prove anything Anyway he would destroy any testing equipment just by looking at it......... so there