RongzomFan

If you don't think European countries took a hit in this last crisis as much as us, that is pretty delusional. The WHOLE WORLD suffered the same crisis my friend Europeans are also suffering from debt and record unemployment.

Are you involved with the financial world at all? There are a LOT of European economic disasters, the current one being Greece. Europeans have always had many more economic problems than the U.S. The Euro is tanking because of Greece.

I am neutral regarding these techniques. I just stumbled across this recently, so I thought I would spread the word. Why not post all of his techniques? It is not like he owns them.

no need to apologize since your opinion means nothing to me.... But just to provide context, he was bashing capitalism based on his experience with it in RUSSIA. My point is that capitalism works quite well in America, and many other capitalist countries around the world.

You should move to a real country

The method is give for free in multiple places....like here http://www.ehow.com/how_5734659_make-true-_elixir-life_.html So next time do your research

No, they give the method away for free.

Stalin killed more people than Hitler....So while you are at it, why don't you defend Hitler? And regarding tibetan buddhism, the commies STILL have the Panchen Lama kidnapped till the present day! And I saw a rare interview with the China president on CNN. That guy is fucked up in the head!!

I agree Communists killed many more people that Hitler. Communism is pure evil.

WOW. Everyone take the time to read these works of beauty.

I know, just half of the population fell into poverty, and the death rate skyrocketed. Pretty minor effects. NOT.

Capitalism is NOT failing in the U.S. I don't see hunger lines or riots. People go to work, and then ride their bikes in the park, go to the movies, go to Best Buys etc. The problem with communism, is that you can NEVER get to the final stage of actual communism. China is not really communist. The Soviets were not really communist. Totalitarian YES. I remember writing papers on this stuff in school

I am done debating with you. Why not borrow from the library if they have it? But if you are too lazy to do that.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_philosophy All the times post-date the buddha, except jainism P.S. Early european scholoarship had a romantic view of "Hinduism" which PRESUMED "Hinduism" lasted in ONE form for THOUSANDS of years......This is also YOUR position! You are also ignorant of the fact every introductory indian religion course starts with the flaws of european scholarship. Even ones taught by caucasians!

Amen. Marblehead you might be interested in: The Essential Vedanta by Eliot Deutsch, Rohit Dalvi- 2004 Refutes the fictious timelines presented in this thread In summary, pretty much every school of Indian philosophy, including the ancient orthodox schools POST-date the Buddha Even the Gita "can be placed roughly about the beginning of the Christian era".

Tried to use only non-orientalist Indian sources...I have some preliminary info in bold: Chinese pilgrim who witnessed state of buddhism in India first hand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuanzang "Modern Hinduism is largely Pauranika, that is, post-Buddhistic in origin." Swami Vivekananda "Buddhism and Vaishnavism are not two different things. During the decline of Buddhism in India, Hinduism took from her a few cardinal tenets of conduct and made them her own, and these have now come to be known as Vaishnavism." Swami Vivekanada Moritimer Wheeler says "we cannot treat Buddhism merely as a heresy against a prevailing and fundamental Brahmanical orthodoxy." "Moral principles and practices, such as ahimsa, karuna,maitri, respect for the guru, control of the mind and the senses of yoga, etc. which Buddhism transmitted to Vaishnavism. The Bodhisattva ideal and the idea of Buddhavatar also became integral parts of Vaishnava theology." Joshi L. M., Studies in Buddhistic Culture page 348 "Dharma cult owes many of its elements to that form of later Buddhism, which is known as Mantrayana and latterly and most commonly, as Vajrayana" L. M. Joshi "After the fall of Buddhism, what happened to masses who were in majority? ...If proper study is made we feel that it is possible even now to recognize the population groups who converted to Hinduism." Jamanadas

dwai, You accept midddle age myth as history How are we the delusional/imaginative ones? Seriously, you are a hindu nationalist with an agenda. You don't even read the articles you cite. And I am the troll? Go ahead and call me a troll. I would rather be a troll than whatever disorder you have. I AM DONE WITH THIS THREAD except for one thing. When I get a buddhist population percentage at the peak, I will update.

The ironic thing is I am a brahmin LOL

BTW, historicity is a real word A lot of idiots think its not. I am always shocked by that since it used all the time in academia.

dwai Do you really believe in the historicity of the horse headed avatars? I mean all these myths have a definite history. These are not ancient myths you know! A vedic-age ritualist would be like "What the f*** are you talking about?"

RIGHT FINALLY It was a review that trashes Wynne's thesis Congrats

Your quote: Bronkhorst argues that the Upanishads in fact postdate the Buddha and that the only influences on him were non-Brahmanical. Again I do not think you even read what you quoted. The whole article is against your position. Why don't you read it? A novel idea....

Do not act like this is the first time you have invoked middle age myth in the support of your position. It was getting tiring I doubt you are really Indian, because you would know how many bullshit myths we have. It is nothing to take offense over! It is a fact that all this stuff was invented in the middle ages. Ever heard of the Puranas?

Here is an interesting source of definitely NON-orientalist history http://www.ambedkar.org/Tirupati/Tirupati.pdf

That is above my head 3bob. You would have to examine both in their orginial languages. But my personal opinion is of course some upanishads could have borrowed from buddhism. dwai cited that ALL upanishads came after the buddha. Even if you do not accept that, most came after the Buddha, as is common knowledge. Some probably came after Nagarjuna. You have to keep in mind, hinduism is mostly painted over Mahayana.

seriously, what is up with these mythological Vedic rishis you keep citing? Do you believe all Hindu myth? All such things were invented in the middle ages