RongzomFan

Your opinions are not logical at all. What caused the uncaused Creator to cause?

There are no beginnings. Its an infinite regression.

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If the Big Bang has a cause, then something has to have caused that cause, which in turn has a cause, which in turn has a cause, which in turn has a cause, which in turn has a cause etc. There is no place for a Creator in an infinite chain of regression of cause and effect. If the Big Bang has no cause, there is no Creator.

What caused your uncaused Creator to cause?

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Your premises are false. Why don't you answer the question?

So then you are just wasting my time.

Fine. So do you admit your Creator is changing? Yes or no.

Intiating causes requires change i.e. cause and effect.

Reread my post, and understand. You are just repeating what you already said.

Something beyond cause and effect, cannot interact with a universe that relies on cause and effect.

An uncaused creator is beyond cause and effect, and would have no way of interacting with our universe. It would be like trying to run Windows 8.1 on an Intel 286 from the 1980's.

If the "Creator" changes, that involves cause and effect, making the so called "Creator" a conditioned being like Brahma.

I have quoted the book several times on this forum.

You do realize that is Buddhist talk right? Jigme Lingpa, as translated by Erik Kunsang, page 417 of Wellsprings of the Great Perfection: Beliefs in biased "is" and "isn't" fully crumble

A secondary / fake Creator like Brahma.

Polytheism started with humanity

You are the one who said: As far as I know, Ein-sof predates any religious doctrine or belief system. Why do you always play these games ralis?

Believing in a Creator is Mara. There is a whole book on this by Dudjom Rinpoche called "A Torch Lighting the Way to Freedom".

Then the Creator changes and is a demiurge.

Brian, noone has demonstrated the universe is even real yet.

Leprechauns, fairies, gnomes, elves, unicorns etc. are just as "unknowable" as Ein Sof. Indeed, they are more possible than an uncaused, unchanging Ein Sof that is incompatible with our physics.

You are the one pretending mundane church stuff is profound