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Zen Sutrayana Approach to Recognizing Unfabricated Presence
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I don't get that feeling from Rongzom. I have read all of Namdrol's posts and the book Establishing Appearances as Divine.
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I am not going to keep on arguing about one Crappily translated sentence.
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I don't know what that means. Rongzom isn't comparing efficacy. He is comparing fundamental differences in outlook.
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No, read your own statement again
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Dzogchen Approach to Recognizing Unfabricated Presence
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Direct Introduction and rushan. -
Take it up with Rongzom.
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right.
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Zen Sutrayana Approach to Recognizing Unfabricated Presence
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Tummo, Kumbhaka etc. are physical methods that stop the winds. Meditation doesn't do that. -
Dzogchen Approach to Recognizing Unfabricated Presence
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Rushan is the main preliminary in Dzogchen. -
If you are going to argue that Madhyamaka doesn't subscribe to the 2 truths, just forget it.
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Greatness of Rongzom: http://books.google.com/books?id=HLFlN5mq9EcC&pg=PA271&lpg=PA271&dq=Rongzompa+OR+Rongzom+%22Comfort+and+Ease%22&source=bl&ots=HymPiXBO6w&sig=UZReYgDqaSwzmVebmSc1xuK1SGg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AQRyUun_MIbS2AXCnIHQBA&ved=0CBgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Rongzompa%20OR%20Rongzom%20%22Comfort%20and%20Ease%22&f=false
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This is the reason: "since they assert a true relative truth [Candrakirti established two kinds of relative truth as well], the category of “established as homogenous” is not understood." http://www.vajracakra.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1195&start=10#p13827
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Tsongkhapa's Prasangika does not adhere to freedom from extremes: http://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13822&p=180514&hilit=extremes+tsongkhapa#p180514 http://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=4056&p=49245&hilit=extremes+tsongkhapa#p49245 This is clear from Tsongkhapa's own writings. Tsongkhapa is faulted throughout history. Tsongkhapa has critics including Gorampa and the Eighth Karmapa
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Exactly. There are many different Prasangikas. I don't even think Tsongkhapa's Prasangika adheres to freedom from extremes.
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Zen Sutrayana Approach to Recognizing Unfabricated Presence
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Tibetan Buddhism is the direct heir to Indian Buddhism. -
Zen Sutrayana Approach to Recognizing Unfabricated Presence
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No, even according to the suttas jhanas can screw you over by being born in the formless realm etc. -
Zen Sutrayana Approach to Recognizing Unfabricated Presence
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Also, in certain practices one sees Buddhas in yab-yum, without any fabrication by the mind. This to me indicates that karmamudra is a good practice. Not to mention the fact that Mahayoga and Anuyoga are revealed the most by tertons. -
Yes, Prasangika, for example according to Mipham or Jigme Lingpa is just freedom from extremes. I agree with that. But I wouldn't call that Indian Madhyamaka.
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Which Prasangika? And who is championing it? Gorampa certainly did not champion Tsongkhapa's Prasangika...
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Zen Sutrayana Approach to Recognizing Unfabricated Presence
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Milarepa said even a little bit of tummo was better than Gampopa's long meditation. http://books.google.com/books?id=OixlLsoIBXEC&pg=PA36&dq=milarepa+short+ah+gampopa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=58r7UtvPLoflsASP0oDgAg&ved=0CDIQuwUwAQ#v=onepage&q=milarepa short ah gampopa&f=false And I'm going by this thread as well as general tantric theory (the winds). http://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4704 -
prasanga madhyamaka is a Tibetan fabrication with different contradictory meanings. Gorampa Tsongkhapa Mipham Jigme Lingpa
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Yes ChNN follows jigme lingpa whom you also like You have to also understand that prasanga madhyamaka doesnt exist If it did exist, I would be following Mipham
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No you are a longchenpa and jigme lingpa fan, as you said