RongzomFan
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When I was a saved Christian, I said outloud every possible permutation of the salvation prayer, and got nothing. Nada. Zip. Even tried the name Yeshua instead of Jesus, asked for the Holy Spirit etc. So by your criteria, i.e. direct personal experience, Jesus is a fiction.
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Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
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Old Testament is fictional: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9XK3DcQe9s This documentary has actual experts like Israel Finkelstein
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Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
Then report him. Don't start drama. -
I am telling you to. They view tantra as having to do with Tsongkhapa's definition of illusory body As far as I know, the mother school of the Gelugs, the Sakya, have nothing like Tsongkhapa's illusory body.
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Christian_Ice, Your own quote contradict you. They view the result of tantra as ending in illusory body.
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I would respond, but I don't know what you are talking about as usual
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Well you should say Tsongkhapa illusory body. The illusory body is in Bon as well, but they got the idea from Tsongkhapa and the Gelugs.
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Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
I'm saying the same thing. The Guru Rinpoche who appears to the tertons, is the one I have faith in. -
well you are the one who brought illusory body up. whatever.
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Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
I don't need to believe in a historic Padmasambhava to believe in Guru Rinpoche. Guru Rinpoche that appears to tertons is obviously some sort of emanation, or a manifestation of the terton's own wisdom. -
Illusory body is just another weird bullshit Tsongkhapa teaching,
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Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
Sam van Schaik on Padmasambhava: "His sojourn in Tibet had been BRIEF....." The historic Padmasambhava did not travel the countryside subjugating sites or whatever the termas say. -
If you want to be a physical immortal like Shiva, read: http://www.khecari.com/styled/index.html
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Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
Actually Sam van Schaik is the one who makes the distintion between Padmasambhava and Guru Rinpoche. Take it up with him. I don't promote dzogchen either. If someone else brings it up, I discuss it. I didn't start this thread. -
Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
But they aren't. There are 2 different Padmasambhavas. There are 2 different Vimalamitras. -
Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
You are the one oversimplifying. The Guru Rinpoche who appears to a terton is not the same guy who historically came to Samye. -
Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
The Padmasambhava and Vimalamitra we know are not historical figures. They are literary characters and/or wisdom manifestations of tertons. -
Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
1. Sam van Schaik says the historical Padmasambhava just subjugated Samye, and got quickly chased out of Tibet. See his general history book Tibet: A History. 2. Ronald Davidson explicitly says the historical Vimalamitra "would have been astonished to find himself the focus of such a tradition." See his book Tibetan Renaissance. So the Padmasambhava and Vimalamitra we know and appear to tertons are essentially ahistorical. -
Dr. Richard Carrier, PhD in Ancient History from Columbia, on this Atwill guy: http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/4664
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A lot of mainstream scholars are changing their minds on the existence of Jesus. Arthur Droge, professor of early Christianity at UCSD, Kurt Noll, associate professor of religion at Brandon University, and Thomas Thompson, renowned professor of theology, emeritus, at the University of Copenhagen believe that you cannot say whether Jesus existed or not. Thomas Brodie, director emeritus of the Dominican Biblical Centre at the University of Limerick, Ireland, and Robert Price, who has two Ph.D.’s from Drew University, in theology and New Testament studies, and Richard Carrier, Ph.D. in ancient history from Columbia University, are certain Jesus never existed. So I would say Jesus is a fictional character. And then all mainstream scholars believe the gospels are not histories.
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sexual tantra - what no one will tell you
RongzomFan replied to healingtouch's topic in General Discussion
This guy is a complete nutjob -
Me: How do I learn all those pujas? Brahmin priest: Are you interested? Me: Yes. Do you have to be a Brahmin? BP: To do pujas for others you have to be a Brahmin. To do pujas for oneself you can do, but you have to go to school. Me: Ok, where do I go to school? BP: India Me: What about all those Indian kids born here outside India BP: We have a sunday school, where you can learn some simplistic bullshit. (paraphrase)
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Yeah these pujas are way too complex. Even the "simple" ones. No wonder the Brahmin priest was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
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Ramana Quote does not belong in CN Norbu's latest book
RongzomFan replied to Tibetan_Ice's topic in General Discussion
You are a sharp one.
