RongzomFan

I doubt it, since chocolate is originally from South America.

Get this through your head. Your opinions means nothing to me.

You have said much more abusive things my New Age friend. But as a troll, you know that.

Why must people follow Theravada?

that's before my time

So chocolate is like Jesus Christ.

These neoAdvaita authors really rake in the money by writing these books. Whats so hard? conceptualizing mind nowness

I hope you don't continue to waste your precious human life by viewing Buddhadharma as a man-made religion like your neoAdvaita.

You are a New Age neoAdvaitin, so I assume you grab whatever technique you can from various traditions, including Buddhism. Indeed you mention tonglen in the other thread.

You don't know what you practice? I don't follow New Age neoAdvaita. Yes, pretty much every path out there. You mean trolling?

If all paths are one, why not take up Scientology steve?

I understand that. I meant non-academic books

What is the practice of New Age neoAdvaita?

what happened that was a good post

As a non-practitioner, why do you consistently put your foot in your mouth?

I don't have to read your thoughts. You've said as much many times before.

This is just Tsongkhapa.

Because you think Vajrayana is the same as man-made New Age neoAdvaita.

Here are some quotations from 2 top books, Nagarjuna's Reason Sixty and Center of the Sunlit Sky: Nagarjuna said "If I had any position, I thereby would be at fault. Since I have no position, I am not at fault at all." Aryadeva said "Against someone who has no thesis of “existence, nonexistence, or [both] existence and nonexistence,” it is not possible to level a charge, even if [this is tried] for a long time." "I do not say that entities do not exist, because I say that they originate in dependence. “So are you a realist then?” I am not, because I am just a proponent of dependent origination. “What sort of nature is it then that you [propound]?” I propound dependent origination. “What is the meaning of dependent origination?” It has the meaning of the lack of a nature and the meaning of nonarising through a nature [of its own]. It has the meaning of the origination of results with a nature similar to that of illusions, mirages, reflections, cities of scent-eaters, magical creations, and dreams. It has the meaning of emptiness and identitylessness." -Candrakirti "Nagarjuna taught , "bereft of beginning, middle, and end," meaning that the world is free from creation, duration, and destruction." -Candrakirti "Once one asserts things, one will succumb to the view of seeing such by imagining their beginning, middle and end; hence that grasping at things is the cause of all views." -Candrakirti "the perfectly enlightened buddhas-proclaimed, "What is dependently created is uncreated." -Candrakirti "Likewise, here as well, the Lord Buddha’s pronouncement that "What is dependently created is objectively uncreated," is to counteract insistence on the objectivity of things." -Candrakirti "Since relativity is not objectively created, those who, through this reasoning, accept dependent things as resembling the moon in water and reflections in a mirror, understand them as neither objectively true nor false. Therefore, those who think thus regarding dependent things realize that what is dependently arisen cannot be substantially existent, since what is like a reflection is not real. If it were real, that would entail the absurdity that its transformation would be impossible. Yet neither is it unreal, since it manifests as real within the world." -Candrakirti Nagarjuna in Mūlamadhyamakakārikā 1.1. states: "Not from themselves, not from something other, Not from both, and not without a cause- At any place and any time, All entities lack arising." Buddhapālita comments (using consequentalist arguments which ultimately snowballs into Tibetan prasangika vs. svatantrika): "Entities do not arise from their own intrinsic nature, because their arising would be pointless and because they would arise endlessly. For entities that [already] exist as their own intrinsic nature, there is no need to arise again. If they were to arise despite existing [already], there would be no time when they do not arise; [but] that is also not asserted [by the Enumerators]. Candrakīrti, in ''Madhyamakāvatāra'' VI.14., comments: "If something were to originate in dependence on something other than it, Well, then utter darkness could spring from flames And everything could arise from everything, Because everything that does not produce [a specific result] is the same in being other [than it]." Candrakīrti, in the ''Prasannapadā'', comments: "Entities also do not arise from something other, because there is nothing other." Nagarjuna in ''Mūlamadhyamakakārikā'' 1.3cd. states: "If an entity in itself does not exist, An entity other [than it] does not exist either." Candrakīrti, in the ''Prasannapadā'', comments: "Nor do entities arise from both [themselves and others], because this would entail [all] the flaws that were stated for both of these theses and because none of these [disproved possibilities] have the capacity to produce [entities]." Nagarjuna, in ''Mūlamadhyamakakārikā'' VII.17., states: "If some nonarisen entity Existed somewhere, It might arise. However, since such does not exist, what would arise?" Nagarjuna, in ''Mūlamadhyamakakārikā'' VII.19cd., states: "If something that lacks arising could arise, Just about anything could arise in this way." Candrakīrti, in ''Madhyamakāvatāra'' VI.151., comments: "It is not asserted that a chariot is something other than its parts. It is not something that is not other, nor does it possess them. It does not exist in the parts, nor do the parts exist in it. It is neither their mere collection nor the shape—thus is the analogy."

Your guys own quote says: "And so the shamatha they've practiced does not help at all. In fact, has it not made them take birth as an animal?"

No shit, rushan is a preliminary practice. Your a funny guy Christian_Ice.

yes. as opposed to your books.

CT, I noticed in more than one thread that you think Nyingmas don't teach sutra level teachings. Its pretty weird.

Actually you are a non-practitioner telling multiple practitioners they are wrong about their path.

If samatha was part of the "classic Dzogchen sequence", I would have read that somewhere before this forum.