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10,000 thanks for that article, thelearner. My internal take on Te has always been 'efficacy'. Welcome to the forum, acdbox. (-: I fixed your thread title for you.

I don't see the connection, either.... cool links, though. Maybe he's working on his Boy Scout merit badge in Astronomy .

We do what needs to be done. Don't ever doubt that.

Or.... you could keep being who you are, and just don't reply to those folks, heh. Not every post needs a reply; not every question needs an answer. Grandpa use to say: It takes two old women to fight and one stick wont burn.

Ahh okay. Misread on my part; all good. (-:

Ok bye bye!

better there than here

Luke, that was really well explained. Well met. (-:

Yes, they can go on forever, and no resolution can be reached. Until - everyone, and I mean everyone, can let it all go. Blacks need to stop thinking all whites are racist/against them. Whites need to stop thinking blacks are racist/against them. There is a lot of bad history, to let go of. On both sides. As long as it's kept alive, by whomever and for whatever reason, it will never end. And there are lots of folks who want to keep this going. Black and white. Much money/power to be made in the conflict. All we can do, imo, is to do the best we can - without pre-judging folks as a group - and look into the eyes of the individual. Lots of shit out there. Lots of really good, too. If we can let ourselves see it. Perpetual IMO applied.

Me too...but it raises some interesting (rhetorical) questions. Are whites/blacks/etc only groups then deemed racist? Is a no-Gays group homophobic? Is a Gay-only group heterophobic? Maybe our default position is valid... and the raison d'etre of the individual group determines appropriateness. I think in the Dolezal case a big part was not only the whiteness... but the deception

In what way?

Hi Rickie, interesting topic! Both male & female are sacred, imo, vital parts of the whole... but I've not heard of this before. Google gave some random links; was there something specific you've run across? Thanks for starting the thread (-:

Maybe a little common sense is in order here, too. And a round of 'keeping things in perspective' as well, for everybody. From Steve's link: 29.3 per 100,000. Let's call it 30. That means 99,970 out of 100,000 males did not murder someone. Not everything is hell in a handbasket.

Oh! That exact thing happened near here... big scandal... she was even elected to head the local NAACP. When outted as 'white' all hell broke loose. ******* Link to article Rachel Dolezal: White woman who identifies as black calls for ‘racial fluidity’ to be accepted 'Gender is not binary, it is not even biological but what strikes me as so odd is that race is not biological either' - Dolezal

(my bold) That may be true, yes. Part of the reason might also be that we're the ones who have to clean up the friggin mess that violence always brings. Violence, for it's own sake, is unnecessary. Doing what needs to be done, and all that that implies, is part of every woman's nature. Watch a mother protect her children. And...there's also this: Famous Viking Warrior Was a Woman, DNA Reveals Link to article Woman of the North!

It's best for me to remember that things are different now. I was born in 1955 with all my lady parts. I don't know what all social pressures may have been on my parents to shape me in one direction or another - but they apparently were immune to them. I was raised with complete freedoms & love, told always I was capable of anything, and allowed to grow/develop according to my nature. While young (3-6), I never felt like a 'girl'. I never felt like a 'boy' either. I was just me! I had for toys the easy bake oven and dolls, etc, but they didn't really interest me; my brother had the trucks & train sets - but they didn't really interest me either. I read a LOT, and my fav toys were lincoln logs & building blocks! The neighborhood had mostly boys & I ran and played with them, building forts, climbing trees, etc. Mom signed me up for Brownies, and later Girl Scouts, and it was okay... but I wasn't really into what they were doing. My clothing of choice was and is jeans & a flowery shirt. boy/girl balanced, lol. (Just for Marblehead I'll resist saying Both, same time. Hmmm...then again, it does seem to be my nature, heh) I guess my point to sharing all this is: I wasn't socially 'conditioned' into 'being' either gender... or locked into what 'society' thought not only what I should be doing, but what I should 'be'. I was lucky enough to be in a place and time wherein who I 'was' and 'am' developed on its own - with male/female energies and activities balanced - on their own. As far as how this applies to the Scouting topic? IMO the best thing would be to let kids choose who they are. And then help them be whoever they become; or at the minimum - stay out of their way while they try. Then again, that idea might not work in these days and times. I need to remember things are different now. Good thing I'm not in charge of their worlds, lol. First to go would be all the cell phones/social media/etc. Heh.

Laozi called it 'Tao' for lack of a better word - but he knew what the word was pointing at. So do I. (-: The tao that can be named is not the Tao Laozi speaks of. Once something is 'named', it has been given a definition, boundaried, parametered. 'Tao' is beyond words, beyond names, beyond defining. But that needn't stop us, just as it didn't stop Laozi, from talking about Tao; sharing ideas & thoughts A very dear friend of mine once said: Tao is the spiritual space, where one has complete freedom of mind, but can still work to do what needs to be done. It is a depth in which one does not get disappointed easily. I like my friend's idea. After all, even 'Tao' is just an idea. (-: warm regards

Here is the story of The Cucumber Sage; much can be learned from it. http://www.abuddhistlibrary.com/Buddhism/C - Zen/Stories/The Cucumber Sage/The Cucumber Sage.htm This story is wonderful - and a perfect example of how others mis-interpret what they observe. Wu Ming, the unwitting Sage in this story, is one of my true heroes. 🥋 Enjoy!

^^ That was the basis of John Nash's Nobel prize in Economics. A Beautiful Mind. Very cool movie.

It might be encouragement is more effective than disparagement. I agree with the 'too late' part...

You are right! Here is your Prize!

Hi luke (-: Understandable how you feel. I've backed away from time to time, over the years, myself. There's a great passage in ZZ, about going through stuff but it 'doesn't get in(side)'. Maybe @Marblehead knows it? There's one in the DDJ, too, in Ch50, that points at this idea. Peace to you, friend. (-:

Yes....we all have ultimate supreme powers and can bend minds. Especially Marblehead, who can conjure up anything! Seriously, ralis, I hope you can find a way to stay & continue, especially in the TT thread in Off-Grid. It might seem like your position there is 'out-numbered' - but there is no way you (or any of us) can know what affect or impact our words and ideas might have on another. 'Winning' or 'being right' doesn't matter. Keeping the dialogue going, expressing what's in our hearts - does. Some have closed ears. Most of us - do not. Please allow people the opportunity to change their minds. warm greetings