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If that is the case, then my experience is not a fantasy. Thanks!

Not necessarily. When I experience something that is not possible to convey or describe with words, it's not the experience that is the fantasy. Thinking it can be fully described, is. Sometimes, words don't work. (-: warm regards

Yep. That's why I said it will be interesting times. Regardless of outcome. Peace out.

And the legal consequences of actions that endanger American lives will likely include a presidential pardon. Don't assume what I know, ralis.

Oh... he probably did, and imo your perception of Trump isn't supported by his history in the public eye, over here. Even with his background, maybe because of his background, he's still the lesser of two evils (as they say). At least with him you know what you're getting. These will be interesting times, for sure.

As a woman, I am personally more offended by Hillary intentionally lying to a grieving mother about a video being responsible for her son's death - than I am by Trump's pussy-grabbing braggadocio.

We are until the sun swallows us up. (-:

"Thinkin aint like buttermilk. It dont go bad on ya if you set it aside for awhile." -Festus Hagun, Gunsmoke

I did, just ended, kinda enjoyed it actually.

If you're ever attacked by a mob of Clowns - go for the Juggler. ~ FB post

Thank you, silent thunder, for sharing your story. Your words reflect how you are manifesting the balanced perspective. Rather than trying to escape into the empty half, you are bringing its ways into the fullness (hard things and easy things) of life. Breathing both. (-:

"..transcend and include whatever you have transcended." Yes. Both. 'Either/or' can be very hard to overcome. Warmest regards

(-: warm greetings

And as I watched, he jumped on his horse and rode off in all directions. (-:

What we've been talking about. Well, the rest of us anyway. Never mind & thanks for the conversation! Peace out. (-:

Good thing, then, that this has nothing to do with knowledge. (-:

Is it choice? I'm not so sure. It might be that we each sense something within (to varying degrees) and are compelled (again, in varying degrees) to make sense of it... and the journey begins, eh? To find that which resonates. Blessed are those who find what they seek, or at least their version of what works for them. (-:

Yep! And that's exactly how it happens! (-:

Interesting tangent. My post was referring to religious/spiritual traditions, however. Also, fyi, I added to my post after you quoted it. All good.

Emphasis mine. You are right, it can't be done. It may be self doubt as you suggest. It also might be that any opportunity to overcome doubt is buried deep by the vested interests of purveyors of miner's shovels. Edit to add: That said, I also believe that most teachers have good intentions and truly want to help seekers find what they seek... which means either they (the teachers) do not understand these things, or, they do know this cant be conveyed but still wish to help the seeker find peace (or whatever) on their path... and what could be wrong with that? Most just do the best they can with what they have; or so it seems to me. warm regards

Your suggestion, then, to pursue is almost as useless as my can't find what isn't lost It's fun to try though, to find words that will come close - all the while knowing words won't work - and your words are enjoyable to read. Warm regards . . edit typo

Jeff - kind offer, I'm good. Thanks anyway! Jetsun -

Does that include the extra-mind created by seeking to attain no-mind? Thanks!

Jeff, hi! Thanks for your reply, very interesting. (-: Decades ago a buddhist told me that I was 'born awake'; I don't know what that means, nor am I that familiar with your terms UDT, MDT, 3rd eye or chakras. There are a few others who have a similar nature as mine, one that is instantly and joyfully recognizable between us, described best (I guess, lol) as an outward flow - more conduit than vessel, heh. Sorry I didn't notice you - I was busy chopping wood. Literally. It's our only source of heat and winter is coming fast. Thanks again for sharing what you were able to see and warmest regards. (-:

Hey Jeff - you can check on me if you want... only if you post what you find here on this thread.