rene

Except maybe to those who view themselves as 'bothersome' and made a wrong asumption, heh.

IMO it's separate. AND it's not-separate. Both, same time. Hey - what would it be if I gave you half the tomato?? :lol: .

Hi DreamBliss (-: Our perspectives are very different; for me, there is both universe and no-universe at the same time. It's not an 'either/or' choice while standing in both all the time, heh. Sorry, words dont work I guess. Oh well (-: warm regards .

3bob, hello In each moment, creation/destruction describes normal changes (decaying apple creates mold); and benefit/harm describes the event from the position of those involved. All are present. Shark eats man: good for shark, bad for man. or if you prefer ~ Man eats shark: good for man, bad for shark. Easy to see the benefit and harm and creation and destruction in either of those two events, yes? That's all I was talking about, sorry my words are so lacking... which is also the Way (-:

I'm saying there is both benefit and harm in every action and non-action. Each moment of change contains equal creation and destruction; both at the same time.

Why should they have to ask to be not interrupted? Common courtesy, eh? Thanks for all the good advice! It will receive all the consideration it warrants. (-:

Since there is nothing that Tao is not, your questions are unboundaried and having and giving are the same thing. Cheers! (-:

Not unlike your and MH's derailing off-topic debate in the Having/Giving thread, eh? Pot meet kettle.

Which of those two choices is more likely to allow the opportunity for something even better to occur? I've found that what comes is usually way cooler than my original idea, heh (-:

Yay! Something for everyone (-:

Yep, there ZZ goes again - complicating a simple idea. Almost makes one wonder why so much effort was spent moving away from simplicity. Almost. Everyone needs a hobby, I guess. Warmest regards, old friend. (-:

3bob, have you found something (or someone) who is not part of Tao?

Is not the beholder and everything seen or heard part of the deep song and great dance?

Who?

Sometimes breathing is easy, Sometimes breathing is hard. Would you really have it any other way? Not me. (-:

Daeluin, hello! As much as I enjoy seeing The Laozi shared, from my perspective it is not possible to cause no harm, it is not possible to cause no benefit. Every action and non-action is one of simultaneous creation and destruction. Such is the way of Tao. Warm greetings

The same way one finds what was never lost. warm greetings

luke, agree. On both sides of that 'curtain', there are enough good intentions to pave 10 roads to hell. Everybody just needs to chill the fuck out. Perpetual IMO applied. (-:

If Viator wanted to announce to the world he was leaving he would have done so in his own way and time. Shame on you MS; it was not your place to do this. You dont get to decide others' choices. Peace out.

Yep, that's yer nature and we love ya for it!

Yeah...that's the thing about appearances, eh? :D

The more you guys fan the fire - the more your true natures are revealed by the flames. Just so you know.

thats the only song I've ever heard that has my name in it, heh. Are there any 'Apech' songs? Wonder if they'd be warrior songs! Edit: That was in reply to Apech's post of a song title. Forgot to quote it, lol . .

Ditto! Welcome (-:

Seems that ALL of your various practices are really helping you on your spiritual growth, huh. :-/ Just sayin.