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If it was sequential, yes... I see it more as simultaneous

Hey @Pilgrim I like your new avatar!! No mixing up that one!

I'm not sure the internal and external are all that unconnected. As above, so below. As within, so without. Changing one's surroundings affects our internals... and once we change the way we look at things - the things we look at change. Or so it seems to me.

Always. Every action and non-action, every moment of change, is one of equal creation and destruction. Such is the way (-: Right! Seeing these things as not mutually exclusive is what ends 'either/or' mindset. Your words are clear to me; glad you're using them. (-:

Congrats on getting it out there, Steve - best of luck with sales!

Do you think you can improve upon the Universe? I do not think it can be done. <--LZ said that somewhere. It can be difficult, for some, to know when to 'interfere' with the natural course of things. Especially if one is stuck in 'either/or' thinking. I've spoken a lot over the decades about 'Both, same time' - but this last bit of conversation illustrates how the rubber meets the road in that idea. First, though, Stosh - I seriously doubt your antipathy regarding wasteful killing exceeds mine. When coyotes kill it is for food. When I kill it is for food. IMO 'trophy' hunters should be mounted on walls. So. How do we know if or when we should 'interfere' or not? My way, is to let things take their natural course - AND - when and if I'm strongly compelled (by my own instincts) to interfere then I do so... and whatever outcome, comes <--regardless of any personal preference of mine. <<<THAT is the 'Both, same time' here. I do what I sense is the right thing in the moment, AND, it's not possible for me to know if it was the right thing or not. (ala SaiOng). It's because it's not possible to know all outcomes of my choices - any angst or lament I may have after the fact is mitigated. That's why I was asking about a 'righteous path'. I don't think there are any pre-prescribed paths that are 'righteous' in themselves - which leads back to the OP. While finding one's way up from the 'bottom' - listening to one's instincts, true heart, can be informative and helpful. That, and -

No mistaking mine. I'm aiming at a hawk.

my turn to go re-read, and get my glasses, AND set up the PC. Typing on phone sux.

No. We all misread sometimes.

she didnt say that. go find your glasses lolol

hmmmm i doubt that.

What understanding did you come to, sweet friend?

I enjoy your words, luke, very much and they've inspired me. This is hardly the time, place or thread for that matter to reveal something about myself - therefore it's the perfect time, place and thread. (-: Unexplainably - I was born with male and female energies in perfect balance. As a child, I never felt "like a girl" or "like a boy"; I was just always Rene. Growing up, and still as an adult, I've never felt "like a woman" or "like a man". Physically, I am female. I'm attracted primarily to males but there was this one Lakota woman that...well... Even that, though, was not so much a sexual attraction - it was purely energetic. Thinking on it now - all powerful sexual pulls for me are energy-based rather than gender-based. So...it might be that way for others? Which ever 'gender' their birth-energy is determines which gender they identify with and/or are attracted to. Or, in my case of balanced male/female energies, it might be 'Both, same time' <---LOL now there's a new manifestation of that.

LOL sweetie pie Regarding your post - 1) everyone has their own nature. How could they not?? It might be their own trueness has been covered up with years and/or layers of crap - and maybe it's easier for them to stay in other's expectations then break out... but even that is a choice, and they are doing what makes them happiest (even if that means they are miserable). 2) see above

The right 'gimmick' imo is being true to your nature, following your own path.. instead of what others think your path should be. If you're a wolf, be the best wolf you can be. If you're a worm, be the best worm you can be. True te, and true virtue, is to thine own self be true. If pendants help as a reminder...kewl beans

Good luck with that. btw...which "righteous" path are you trying to stay on?

Same with forum posters.

Passive aggressive.

This thread is using too much energy. Think of all the bytes you've wasted!! I'm ashamed of you all.

Who am I? A woman that lives in the mountains I breathe the snow and sing the forests I merge with the rocks and listen All I am - is what I do. And it is enough. (-:

PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: WE NEED A WALL !

Hi flowing hands (-: I'm glad to read that you're aware of some of the environmental costs of 'going green'; for a minute you had me worried! LOL The delusions I was referring to that are indeed polluting are the extremes of this debate - that all green is all good, and no green is all good - and the off-topic dueling charts and the off-topic takeover of your thread by ralis and drew (I have him on ignore but can easily guess) and the others sure polluted up your topic. One of the first, and maybe most important step, in travelling light - is to not live in excess, nor to bring or let in the garbage of extremes in the first place; whether material or verbal. I know you cant block or delete the off-topic posts but a request to dawei or other mods could have assisted with this and the replies to your thread and good conversation may have had a better chance...and may have reduced your need to appear to land on an extreme.

Flowing hands, you surprise me! I applaud your efforts and intentions, we are also off-grid and harness the sun for all our energy needs which are nominal, but we do not pretend there was no environmental cost to do so. There are many kinds of pollution; not the least of which is delusion. Are you okay? Oh wait! Perhaps you are playing the Uke with this thread?

That.^^

Ditto (-: Edit to add: A TTC's treatment of Ch 1 generally reveals the underlying 'starting point' of the renderer. Or so it seems to me.