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Yep. Not 'either/or'. Both. Same time. Nice post!

(-: ********************** "Is it possible to remain in the Non-dual state and function in the world?" Of course it is. UNLESS -they are believed to be an 'either/or' thing. And if that's the case - the perpetual hopping from one foot to the other will ensue. Better maybe to take Silent Answer's idea and just let them dangle, heh.

Of what use would ZZs wisdom be? You really think this is a 'learned' thing?

You see the differences there, yes? Between LZ's and ZZ's ways as reflected in these two passages? ZZ's man acts with intent; LZ's man doesn't need to act; he just is. (MH- did you want feedback like this in the thread? You can remove my post if you want; its all good)

Why?? They missing??

Oh yeah baby! AND it's even worse than that! Not-Zero = Everything so.... Not only One Not only Two Not only Nothing Not only Everything All four at the same time. LOLOL Sometimes I'm surprised we're even close to being able to not always just fall over! Glad yer still around da joint, dawei. (-:

Everything is that kind of cake. Nice to see you, 3bob

Not Two?? Not-One ?? Still in either/or thinking I see. How about: Not only One, Not only Two. You know. Both at the same time. (-: warm greetings

This might have been addressed in another thread...but... Everywhere else it says this is the year of the sheep. Is our new goat the Pinyin version of sheep?

ooops, now it's too late premature ejaculat... dang! happened again!

Things that lay and drowse becoming the impetus for soon to come spark

It might be the problem begins with the idea that 'dualistic thinking' is something to escape from. Living in the joyous manifest, dualistic thinking can be rather useful. That shrivelled orange would be bad to eat. If I live through this day that would be a good thing. lol Making something important enough to try and rid yourself of it - only reinforces it, imo. But we each have our own ways, and I'm glad you share yours with us. (-: warm regards

Good morning, Marblehead! Ignoring yu makes no more sense than ignoring wu, oui? You are a Materialist and a delightful one at that! Perhaps you are the cosmic balance for the Spiritual Materialists who seek to live *only* in a 'yu-less wu-state' <-- the attempt of which, and prolonged struggle for, can do as much harm to a person as its opposite. Whichever 'side' is chosen is still an either/or trap; only half of the whole, rather than both, all. warmest regards, rene

Unboundaried = the simultaneous meld with One and Zero That's how Dao is everywhere! ((dawei)) Fun stuff to think and not-think about. (-:

Yep! Two eyes, both open at the same time. Both. (-:

Wear your chains with pride There's nothing heavier than the chain of 'no-chains'.

ditto ditto ^^

Is it? Even though unboundaried with the manifest? Both, baby. Both. (-:

Any of them. I hear they talk to each other all the time. (-:

like a web unspun i wait peacefully here, for the weaver to come

staring back at me friends and lovers times gone by only whispers now

Of-course-you-are-right. Please-ac-cept-a-pol-o-gy. I'll-S-T-F-U. (-:

You must be on the other side of the pond (-: Here, celestial is 4, and firey is 3 #7005: a-feast-for-the-eyes 5 Fi-r-ey-blaze-of-cha-os 7 Ce-les-ti-al-Earth 5 Still, your good intent (5) Is most appreciated (7) given our lame trys. (5) (-:

? 5-7-5 right? Ce-les-ti-al-Earth 5 Lea-ving-all-the-gods-behind 7 Van-ish-in-the-mist 5