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Celestial Earth Leaving all the gods behind ~ Vanish in the mist

Dao's unboundaried nature may appear differently in discrete manifestations... and "big" is somewhat misleading as Dao is also as minute as it is vast. So much so - even its existance is only an idea. Perpetual IMO applied. (-:

The idea of 'either/or' is a very hard one to let go of. The "thing" has some limits, yes. But all of its aspects may not be limited... Tao is even in the dirt, yes? Perhaps your idea of Tao has limits; mine knows none. warm regards

dawei - yes, feels like a paradox doesn't it.

She ignores nothing (-: Just as f'ullest Yang contains the seed of Yin, total "yu" is unboundaried with "wu". Both, baby. Always. Simultaneously. Both.

Not possible to return to something that's impossible to be apart from.

Apologies, Apech. Just havin a little fun. I actually already found a Viking... and yes, he's 6'4, 220strong, long hair, etc, especially the etc. Warm greetings from the North.

She is yes! I didn't know you knew that though... Hmmm... hey, how tall are you? :grin:

Way cool GGMP !! Blessings to you all. (-:

What? You don't like my picture? Northern passion can be quite overwhelming, you know.

:wub: we'll make a cute couple

Where's my Viking?? Are you a man of the North? 50-65? 6'2 or taller? at least 220lbs strong? If so... oh baby. If not, please don't reply; the heart wants what the heart wants. Pics exchanged before meeting ~ Passion first, LTR if it's right. Your long hair is a plus. *********** oops..never mind...wrong site.

Holy shit. Awesome vid, silent thunder, thanks for sharing it. Lars may have been practicing/doing this for years, but he also yields to the connection. <--that will only make sense to those who also do this and already understand what I mean. I dont jump off walls to shoot heads off things, lol, but hitting the center of the center of the center comes naturally ~ when the center is not separate. (-: warm regards

Why would Laozi search? Not possible to 'find' something that isn't missing in the first place.

that just shows you how wrong he was and your rendition of laozi's thought also misses the point laozi was both, not either/or, as your quote suggests seems a materialist guy like you would know that by now... or not. perpetual imo applied kind regards (sorry for the drive-by shot; i'm headed off-line for a while but could not let that pass untweaked.)

hi guys, I disagree with you both re wisdom; at least the 'wisdom' LZ suggests. MH - do you recall Dr Wang's "wu-wisdom"? Wisdom (understanding) sourced and based in Wu? Some folks (gnostics) differentiate these things with words like 'knowing'' and 'gknowing' (or something like that) - to describe the difference between everyday knowledge - and understanding that is sourced in (your Mystery. One can have all the knowledge in the world and appear to make wise choices, but, imo, the true 'wisdom' - the 'wisdom' LZ conveys - has nothing to do with 'knowledge', and everything to do with trusting that which comes of its own accord, when left unhindered (uncarved). Thoughts? Edit: p.s...dawei - yes, it is just that simple.

Truer words were never spoken. Happy New Year, CD

Active intention to become WuWei ~ is like staying drunk to avoid drinking. Or so it seems to me.

Thanks for this reminder that what we'll see depends on what we're looking for.

I think so. Helpful ~ or useful as support for already held ideas.

Nope. And "wu-wei" is neither of those. This is too far off the OP, ChiDragon. Feel free to start another thread or something, if you'd like. (-: warm regards

Thanks for elaborating! warm regards