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Me too. Just searched local library online - found it! Anyone know which translation would be better? Thomas Cleary or James Clavell? <-those are my only choices. Thanks!

Oh yay! It's out of the Pit! If you want to move it the rest of the way up where it belongs... that would be okay too. Thanks!

Yes - and strategies found in the AoW can be used anywhere. It's been a while since I read it, but as I recall most of what was in there was mostly applications of natural observations... flow, timing, etc. For example, here is one of my tricks. Driving in the city (rare occasion for me) I needed to change lanes, so I could turn in a few blocks. Nobody would let me in. So... I timed it so that at the next red light...I was at the front of my lane. I made all the motions like I was going to jump off the line and try and outrun the driver in the other lane to get in front of him. The light turned green, we both hit the gas, the folks behind us held back to watch the race, and after half a block i hit my brakes and slid in behind him. Easy peasy. I used the flow of the situation, and the other driver's own energy, against him. Aikido anyone? (-: The Art of War is like that, imo. Reading flow, strategy, results. IMO - this thread should be in the Taoist Discussion Forum warm regards

Agree. Mods? Why is this in the pit? Thanks!

Perhaps this would work throughout? When I post the next chapter we can talk about other associated stuff in the former chapter? Excellent idea!

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yes..but you also cry during Charmin commercials....

Yep, we do, and we appreciate your input and patience. When the later chapters come, maybe you could show us the difficulties then. Thanks!

Did this link (from the first page) not work for you? 　 http://oaks.nvg.org/zhuangzi1-.html (Link to James Legge's translation of Chuang Tzu, Chapter 1) ***** Edit: Okay. Your first post before editing suggested the link didn't work. I realize now the link works fine for you, it's just the translation you don't like.

Since you have none other to offer (and even if you did) perhaps it's better that we stay with the one linked to the beginning of these Concepts studies, n'est-ce pas ?

I only could because I've done it so many many times before. Even now I catch my self doing it... but it's always relating something back to ideas described in the TTC.

(most welcome!) gotta make a pot scoops big handful of wet clay, nah, grabs cup instead

Oh. Okay. Thanks!

forges all to nought perfection lost to the night tears hisssss as they drop

. Hmmm... Can I ask a quick question? I know very little about Buddhism... Just like what Christianity did to the words of Jesus, and like what Taoism did to the words of LaoTzu, did Buddhism do the same kind of thing to the words of Buddha? Thanks! Edit: to make the question more clear.

For me, they are wonderfully different paths that have the potential of helping one to a place of peace, however they perceive it to be. When Buddhists and Christians and Muslims and Hindus and Daoists and even NewAgers - are all within their own places of peace - maybe that is where the destinations converge and the differentiations and definitions fall away. Like you, I enjoy seeing the similarities between paths! I always take care, though, to not read into something that might not be there (just because I might prefer it to be LOL) ; and I can find no reason to not celebrate the differences and the diversities between us all. Something for everyone! warm regards

Is that the Buddhist "Nothing" or the Taoist "Nothing" or did you mean "No-Thing" ? Because all three of those are 'disputable' imo.

It's for when you want to say something to all the mods, but out of the public forum, without having to send separate PMs. More efficient for you; easier for them to not have to distribute your thoughts. Also keeps rogue mod from ignoring a PM request, when all honchos can see it. More transparency, right?

Or maybe what you see is the back-side of a black hole in a different universe - that feeds material into ours. Either way, this is off-topic; apologies, Harmonious Emptiness (-:

I am not worthy. wept the thief on bended knee hoisting crown of gold.

(-: stellar spiral formation

draw a royal flush kings over fours are no good in high stakes life game

it was a brief life and much fun while it lasted! there are many more.

keepsake for the wall... just the way CT likes it You feel better, now?