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CD hi re: "In addition, what is "Yu/You", is it 有...??? - yes. re: Why do you think that Dual is in connection with them, I see no correlation between them. To me, dualities occur in the manifest - and at the time, the word 'Manifest' represented You(有) for me. In similar manner, to me, 'Mystery' associates with non-dual, and Wu(無). I first created this diagram back in 1977, with pen and paper after reading the TTC (F/E) for the first time...so all I had were the words mystery and manifest. The above digital rendition of the diagram was made in the 90's, in Paint, lol. It was years later that I learned the other terms. re: ..., I would prefer to replace "Mystery" with "Wu" and replace "Manifest" with "You" to have a much clear picture. Please do, lol That's why I put the p.s. in the post - so you could get 'Wu' and 'You' up there in the right circles. (-:

Lemme think on that for a while......

John, hi Just so you know, I linked to your yin/yang-sphere above in post #13 on this thread: http://thetaobums.com/topic/28206-the-principle-and-logic-of-tao-philosophy/ warm regards.

re non-Vennian.. how 'bout a sphere? http://thetaobums.com/topic/28138-ambigrams-and-the-tao/ from post #9 in that thread New poster. Just joined. Very cool stuff.

So delighted to see you again (-: I look forward to reading your latest work and I'd be happy to help what little I can. If nothing else, I can post pretty pictures and diagrams. LOL I'll check your website for a larger version of the diagram you're using as an Avatar. Warm regards. Rene

CD - this is my idea of how Tao tao-s. Can you share your idea with us? warm regards p.s... This is a diagram I made years ago, before I heard the terms 'dual/non-dual' or 'wu/yu'. Please mentally insert "Wu & Non-dual" into the Mystery circle, and "Yu/You & Dual" into the Manifest circle. Tks!

CD - it might be in this case, "Nonduality of Tao" is referring to the unboundariedness of Tao, i.e., that the whole is still within the parts and the parts are still within the whole. All, same time. (-: warm regards

Trying to minimalize how someone feels wont help your cause, wolf. warm regards

That was my first thought. Her child or another woman's child could have been fed... I'm with liminal_luke on this, when he said "Along with the "feeling" of gratitude would come an effort to seek out meat that had been raised and slaughtered in a humane, compassionate way." warm regards

http://aprilleflye.blogspot.com/2011/04/15-unique-women-who-breastfeed-animals.html thoughts?

ttc talks about moving naturally taiji is moving naturally still... just cause an orange is a fruit and an apple is a fruit doesnt mean apple = orange okay, fruit for breakfast, lol warm regards

OK, you're right, you're not. warm regards

how do you know that you are not? (-:

hiyas (-: if its a recent thing, it might be the spambots hitting different aspects of the forum. My 'Profile' has been under attack for the last few days... so I disabled the 'Recent Visitors' section. I got tired of all the mandypkf and mandytlz and mandyfuckyou nicks 'visiting' me over and over. So...whatever is hitting your post/thread might be a new version of that. Only thing you might do is just shut off notifications (or at least the immediate alert of them) for a while... hopefully it will end at some point, for all of us. If it doesn't and if you dont mind losing it - ask the Mods to completely delete the thread/post they're feeding on. Little buggers. warm regards

What could I show you that you have not already seen? What could I tell you that you have not already heard? What could you learn that you do not already understand? There is no need to be kind, just be yourself. Kindness comes naturally. There is no need to be just. As a whole human, you are already just. Being who you are in your heart, brings everything. You already know these things. They are naturally known because they are natural. What more could I say that would be of any use? ****** warmest regards (-:

Seems to be quite a book! I looked at the Table of Contents from the link above... Frequently there are several topics on one page - Hope it has the detail/depth on each topic that you guys want, Not sure how much method or instruction could be shown or taught In only a paragraph, or two. But given the nature of what is being shown, I could easily be mistaken about that. (-: warm regards

HI PM - 2 more posts to go! LOL

The item behind GuanYin reminds me of the Three Vinegar Tasters! Thanks for posting these, newTaoist. Very cool.

thetaoiseasy, hello There is a long-time question I have about the nature of qi and the way one interacts with it. May I ask it here in your thread? I dont wish to disrupt your (most excellent !!) posts, so if you'd prefer not, thats fine. (-: warm regards

David, I'm glad you like Sree; perhaps your friendship will be helpful for him. (-: Take care, Rene

Sincere apologies, newTaoist. I thought it wise to preserve these two older posts before they were edited. - sorry for the interruption.

dawei, hi On the whole, your take is valid, yet I have no need to promote my perspective; not possible for someone else to have it (we each have our own). Because of it, however, seeing and understanding sree's ideas and desires is simple observation. What i object to is the manner in which sree treats other poster's ideas and energy spent by them responding with their own heartfelt thoughts. An 'occasional' read of this thread may or may not show you what others have seen, and expressed to sree, about their interactions with him which on the whole have been negative. You also may not realize that this thread was started by me to give sree an outlet, a place to explore his own needs (and push his own point), rather than continuing to rudely hijack newTaoist's Home Taoist Altar thread. Sree was also questioned in the thread by a Mod re treating members here in a 'dark manner'; after which sree changed tactics quickly. Here's a recent example: If you look at this post of sree's, you'll see that rather than addressing what I said to sree, he instead makes a whole new claim: that I "see sree's argument as insensitive and problematic to the status quo." which is not even close to anything I've ever said. Sree likes to make stuff up, twist meanings, and shows no interest in discussing ideas - only in dismissing them or ignoring what doesn't suit his purpose. Here's a brand new example of the disrespect: You'll find alll of the same behaviours in his Tao of Dying thread, and similar reactions by other members who find sree's methods and manner distasteful and hostile, and have told him so, which, it seems, sree thrives on as the behaviour continues, and his replies are even more animated by the flames he causes. As no doubt all this attention now will feed his ego...albiet this would be a small meal, by what appears to be his daily diet requirements. ******* sree, I'm sorry that you and I couldn't have had an open and honest conversation. I bet it would have been really good. I noticed your 'game playing' in your first few posts wherein you whined about being 'picked on' and made you "uncomfortable like we didn't want you the same way we wouldn't want blacks and gays". (sniff sniff) Remember that post? You showed your hand too early, with an attempt of an out-of-the-blue politically-correct guilt BS, that you are here posting for far different reasons than you claim. I hope you find your niche here in TaoBums, if that is what you want. I hope you also find a way to let your shields down a bit. There's a lot of love and good heart here in the forum and we all could use some of that, along with a kind word from time to time. You can, of course, choose to continue to shit on those who interact with you... until there is no one left who would take the time to bother. it is beyond me why someone would intentionally drive people away... maybe you were burned too much somewhere to give us a heart-felt chance? Who knows. All I know is I'm done trying. Peace out. (-: