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Xabir - thanks for the links and references; most appreciated.

I agree that there is no need for liberation. For me, however, it's not because there is no "end" - but because "ending" is natural. Every moment, every action and non-action, is one of simultaneous creation and destruction. Both an ending and a beginning. Such is the way of tao.

You're welcome. I agree with you that the translation is 'interesting'. Very unusual, is what I'd call it. It's the rest of the book, which gives a rare glimpse into the Laoist mindset, that is of value. Warm regards

Marblehead - the first part of my post was directed to nac, the second part to you. Nothing wrong with opinions, and from what I've read of your contributions, mine pretty much line up with yours. Sorry my post was unclear; I've edited it to remove that confusion. Warm regards

Marblehead - thanks for your efforts in posting these things. There is a book that you might enjoy, by Lee Sun Chen Org. It can be purchased online from several places, but here is the amazon link to it. Book The first 100 pages contain a substantial quantity of information I'd not seen elsewhere previously; the information I was familiar with lines up with other research. The second 100 pages is Org's translation of The Laozi, and the Appendix ("Chronology of Major Events Related to Lao Tzu And His Book"), covering from 2698BCE to the 1993 Guodian find, is alone worth the price. IMO, of course.

To nac: Tao - is completely non-dogmatic. Taoism - can be as dogmatic as any other ism. ******************** To Marblehead: Marblehead - agree. Nice posts.

Or, you could just drive them away.

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