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Yeah, i think its applicable. Like when the body has a virus and tries to burn it off with a fever etc. Therefore, we should try our best not to be 'viral' towards the planet (or anyone/anything on it) The earth is very accomodating to us by providing for us as we (hopefully) grow and develop in awakening towards enlightenment. So, to the earth, thanks for having us, may it be a mutually beneficial experience.

just a couple more ideas of taoist (human) virtue - not to slander others - to not cause deliberate contention and conflict with others * as unconditioned said, honesty, I'd take it as honesty to others (eg, not to speak with a forked tounge) and to ones self, eg, honest introspection in order to identify and correct our faults * to harmonise and balance ones self and hence by emanation, harmonise situations? * to know when to proceed and when to retreat from any situation (I like Michaels example of not demanding to be right or 'win' an argument) * to be accomodating (I notice stigweard is so good at this, eg: welcomming new members, and offering balanced perspectives on things) * to accord with people and situations based on greatest benefit for all * avoid extremes * to cultivate wisdom * be kind, be kind, be kind

Hey Joel how it going? Mate, I haven't been to the city for a while, but still would be good to catch up some time and meet.

who was the founder of the knights of the round table? sir cumference why are pirates pirates? because they arrrghhh why do scuba divers put their hand over thier face and fall backwards into the water? because if they tipped forwards, they'd fall into the boat. a man was driving along a road and saw a farmer in in the midle of a huge expanse of grass. he stopped the car, climbed over a barbed wire fence and wandered over to the farmer. "Is this your farm"? he asked. "yep." replied the farmer. The man went on, "Oh, so is everything OK, I just noticed you standing out here as I was driving pasrt, have you lost something?" "Nah" replied the farmer, "I'm just trying to win a nobel prize" The man was confused "Huh? what do mean?" The farmer replied, "I've heard that they awared nobel prizes to people who are outstanding in their field."

Important topic trunk. One of my teachers, in his first stage lessons emphasises daoyin and accupoint massage on the meeting points. This is to be learned before any type of qi gathering forms. The reason is simple. Open channels and improved posture allow qi to flow smoothly and be stored safely.

from ignorance come thoughts, deeds and actions which shape our present experience, individual karma has varied manifestations from person to person. on the level of manifestion each is unique. how can anyone judge another? with honest introspection we seek genuine wisdom, that which is unmoved by changing phenomena might just be real understanding. when kindnesss and compassion arise within, may we wish for peace for all beings.

Old post? man, I get that face reading all my post, old or recent and while writing them. Even when it takes me 15-20 minutes to write just three lines, changing this word, that word, deleting a line here and there...............they still don't come out right. That kind of self examination and honesty is admireable. And Hagar, to me, your stuff is genuinely from the heart so it has something special to it.

Excellent research David. Reminds me of a book called 'root canal cover-up' From reading this thread I continue to appreciate how informative your and Karens' contributions are.

Tachyon tools are item made from natural material eg glass silica cotton water etc. they use no electrical power. The manufactures say that once made, they work for generations. From my experience after 8 years, so far, so good.

Jus the other day I was watching the DVD 'The yogis of Tibet". In it HH Dalai Lama told of one monk who had been held captive by the Chinese for almost 18 years. Followig his release, he went and lived with the Dalai Lama in India. When questioned about his experience of being held captive for 18 years, he replied that at times he faced some danger. The Dalai Lama thought he meant that his life had been in danger, so he asked him 'what type of danger did you face'? The monk told him 'the danger of losing compassion towards the Chinese.' Incidently, the program was very good, and the theme of compassion is well addressed throughout.

The science of tachyon itself is explained in the books, it's not new the principle is clearly outlined, and also the reson why different people have different affects with it is also explained. As I see it, the only other way to understand it beyond material science is to open up genuine wisdom through meditation and upright conduct. To me, this is a very important point. Then we could understand much much more. Not just about tachyon, but all life, causes, and situatiuons. The only seeming authority that Wagner may have as I can see it is that he was able alter materials to become antanae for tachyon and therefore patented the process. Actually he recalls that part of this ability came about through meditative revelation and years of study and trials. I know some qigong masters that have extrordinary abilities that people wouldn't believe. They too won't divulge how itls done or explain any scientific basis for it, untill one is ready and capable of understanding it, and trustworthy enough not to abuse it. I heard about tachyon, so I tired it, I had no prior expectations at all, but I soon realised that the affects were genuine and the potential vast. Family members also noticed the improvements in our drinking water, various pains etc. From my and my friends experience, tachyon is one of the means which, through proper , sincere and genuine practice, helps us to "see the real inner nature of something", particularly ourselves. I feel it does this by helping to harmonise on the physical, emotinal and mental level, thus enabling us to have clearer understanding. But as with all things, the degree to which this happens depends on the individual and their willingness allow the proces to happen.

I would say that the people who sell the products don't know either. I think the only people who know are David Wagner (the founder) and maybe a few other people at the most - not many. And there are reasons for it. Beceause it can be quiet powerful, in the wrong handss, it could be abused and definitely misunderstood. I don'nt know how the process works myself, but I know it takes 14 days to complete - because it is permanently altering the material (natural material) at the sub-molecular level, making it intoa tachyon antena. I have the coccoon, and either have or have had: the water , silica gel, spirulina, blue green algae, silica disks. I have had experince with the TLC bars and another tool availible ony to practitioners (a local friend of mine is one) I'll write more about it later - I just woke up, need to practice first.

Ive been holding off bringing up this stuff for ages because of the potential cynicism and criticism by some people that may doubt it. But then I thought even if one person chooses to investigate and use their products, then the benefits they have are worth me mentioning it here. It is called advanced tachyon technologies I have been using tachyon products for 8 years and can say that they are very very good. If you want validation, they apparently have been tested by prognos which is very scrict. But from my own experience and experience of people I know, tachyon products are great, whether used internally or externally. I have had much benefit from them for years. to save me explaining anymore, here's some links. The first list of articles on the left explain tachyon https://www.tachyon-partners.com/support/in...622&MYLANG= this article pertains to EMF's and how to use tachyon. https://www.tachyon-partners.com/support/in...622&MYLANG=

No worries, but the quote by Sri Ramana was not complicated, pretty easy to understand and is a very useful reminder of ultimately what we should concern ourselves with . I've had things proven as true to me. Though I won't say that I didn't believe them previously as I don't hold fixed opinoins about matters, I just leave the possibilities open. The more we practice the more may be revealed - according to our capacity to recieve without being attatched or distracted. Others might chime in with examples, but no way am I going to give examples of my experiences, this is personal and something I only share with my teachers and close cultivators. Neutral wire put it nicely too.

Phenomena of various manifestations exist in this world. Most types are commnly percieved by the 5 senses while different levels of perception are needed to experience others. Each person has varying degrees of capacity in this regard. Some phenomena may arouse curiostity, even seem extrodinary or 'supernatural' and may therefore be of interst to investigate and discuss at times which is what some people might want to do. But maybe we should also remember that all things whether detected by sensory or extra sensory perception is still phenomena nonetheless, and hence subject to arising and passing. I would suggest that it's important to also focus our effort in allowing our minds to become still and quite. IOW to work towards having or being in samadhi - unmoving concentration. I like to refer to Sri Ramana Maharshis' reminder in this regard: "The phenomena we see are curios and suprising, but the most marvelous thing of it all is that we do not realise that it is the one, and only one illimitable force which is reponsible for all the phenomena we see and the act of seeing them. Do not fix your attentionon these changing things of life, death and phenomena. Do not even think of the actual act of percieving them, but only of that which sees all these things. That which is responsible for it all. From now on, let your meditation be not opn the act of seeing nor on what you see, but immovably on that which sees" - Sri Ramana Maharshi. This statement also reminds me of parts of the Shurangama Sutra, eg Avalokiteshvara returning the hearing within to hear his own innate nature.

So many beautiful responses, all of them are nice because they are sincere. I noticed this one as particularly touching: That's wonderful My personal take on prayer is when, with intentions of peace, goodwill and kindness we concentrate our heart and mind in expressing devotion and respect to the greatly virtuous and kind ones that inspire us to become a better person. And with that intent, we grow in compassion and understanding I feel it's also important to dedicate the prayer to end suffering and for the peace of all beings. The prayer itself can be of various sorts, for me, it's meditation and mantra recitation. My favourites are the Medicine Buddha Mantra, Great Compassion Mantra and the Shurangama Mantra Dedication of merit "Compassionate and Wise - Fr. Cyprian Consiglio" http://www.urbandharma.org/mp3/compassionate_&_wise.mp3

Spot on. This is so beautiful John. Truly wonderful. Bowing to what you said............

In regard to the tree. Does the tree know it's own nature? Just as with humans, some might, others might not. We can never be sure. Only those with the relevant penetrations are able to tell. If re-birth and karma do not sit with you at the moment, you can still cultivate kindness, calmness and other practices which help eliminate our bad habits and tranform us into kind beings with wisdom. Continued persistence can reveal our own self-nature. Everyone is at a a different 'stage' in this regard, so it is necessary to cultivate so that it is revealed. How will we know it is revealed? All our doubts will be gone, we will feel a deep compassion for all beings and be aware of intrinsic inter-dependence of all life. .....and like Steve said, this reminds me of something one of my teacher told me just the other day............." In China, there is a saying 'without pressure on the well, the water won't come forth'..........." So, don't allow certain current doubts to deter you from the path completely. In other words, it's OK not be sure about re-birth etc. Just focus on virtue, and developing wisdom. etc. In time more may be revealed as wisdom opens up.

David, that's a long list, have you tried/used any of those products you listed? Wondering how they perform. Thanks

Yep. Training, and various types of expertise are great, but in addition, I feel it's it's necessary to be free of judgements & prejudice, to have genuine compassion and real wisdom. Not necessarily easy, as most of us are still working through our own 'stuff'.

Shurangama Sutra

Yes, I agree and empathise Simply put, this is the best reason, the Bodhisattva intent

Second that. To me, this applies to everyone, whether they identify as Buddhist or otherwise. The principles of the precepts are a guide to all beings, and for peace everywhere.