Zhongyongdaoist

As long as the next life is in the Land of the Way, one more is all I will ever need.

Thank you for your interest. I don't have time right now to satisfactorily address these questions, nor do I care to in open forum. That is one of the reasons why I asked for the PPF. For goodwill's sake I will say, that these things are not high on my list of personal interests, though I have worked with aspects of this type of thing over the years, I have always had overriding concerns that took precedence.

Yes, hyper-space is a super position in which to be or not to be . . .

Then we would have a real D-O-G and mouse game wouldn't we? Nor should we forget that since I am always trying to think outside the hyper-cube, that as a qubit of sorts I exist in quantum superposition with myself. Which explains why I can be so funny, I am always aware of several different verbal world lines that coexist, one little twist and one isn't in Kansas anymore. Which can be really funny, unless you're the witch that the house lands on, but that is a pair of slippers of another color isn't it?

Well, de Truth, de Life and 'dewai' have spoken. All hail J, all hail K, all hail 'dewai'. Edit: Ah, I have seen da light. Mispelling errors duly noted, not corrected as part of penance, ligthing candles, chanting 'our Daos' and 'Hail Xi Wangmus' in pennance. Great picture on the Wikipedia page by the way.

Let's see now, hmmm, people have liked my requests for a PPF, they have asked me what I am going to do, they have asked me if I want any sub fora, I said I didn't want sub fora yet, I think I said please at the beginning . . . and I don't think I said 'never mind' anywhere, is this a long process? Hmmm . . ., not to judge by this: Doesn't look like it. Yet here here I am another day older and probably deeper in debt, but I still don't have my own private Tao Bums. Maybe, I am suspected of being a sock puppet of he who should not be mentioned? Really guys, I am nothing but a spiritual live action role player without a life. Maybe, they are afraid that I will, teach forbidden Arts, sow the seed of Heresies, offend pious ears, and scandalize excellent wits? Hmmm . . ., no some people would actually like that. Maybe, it was just a busy day at the office. Yeah, maybe that's what it was. Otherwise, I'm deeply hurt.

Not right now, but I will think about it and wait for the next big bargain day sale.

should I now worry about my evil cutthroat ex business partners using 'bend over' oil on me?: You probably should have been worried from the beginning. These days there is far too much magical and other knowledge running around for people to simply ignore the possibility. Bend Over oil is highly effective, there are other oils that can be used, but such forcing is seldom necessary, unfortunately many people attracted to business are also attracted to control and think that without some form of 'controlling' oil or powder they won't get what they want. BaquaKicksAss is correct: The only thing I would add to it is that you can never go wrong with uncrossing money situations first, sometimes that is enough to start the flow, but if one doesn't uncross first, or do a combined operation, then prosperity magic by itself may not be successful, or lead to unsatisfactory results. The uncrossing can help to get rid of the negative feelings that many people have about money and which often sabatage success. As a simple historical note, the magical author to first really emphasis getting money matters straight as a part of ones practice wrote under the name of Ophiel in the 1960s and early 70s. His books, though oddly written, actually contain some profound insights and are still of value. Also one of the reasons why I came to like Confucianism is because of its good balance between spiritual realization and worldly success.

This is interesting, do yo have a specific reference for this? If there is some specific 'pre-training' that needs to be done, then that fact should be made more widely known, maybe it would avoid some of the problems that seem to arise otherwise. Anyone else know anything about this?

Among the many differences between Buddhism and Mo Pai, some stand out that made a separate forum for Buddhism useful, among other things Buddhism is an established religion with many different schools, many interested parties, a vast literature and a long and varied history. Mo Pai is practically a 'cult' that has recently emerged from a jungle in what, indonisia (?), with a supposed history, a few followers mostly attracted by promises of power, almost no literature and very little in the way of verified practices. It could be said that never have so many people, argued so long, over so little. Maybe they are so argumentative to draw attention a way from all these failings. Adherents of both have had a tendency to post sectarian criticisms in other peoples threads and initiate long acrimonious exchanges. Of these sectarian criticisms the Buddhist ones were and are certainly the most substantial and of general interest, even if after a point, a pain in the anal chakra. So, I can see a point for a Buddhist forum on the merits of the subject itself, but not one on the merits of Mo Pai. However: if one is concerned about the loss of traffic here, we could, quit cynically, create a 'wild animal park' for the tourists, fully acknowledging at least among ourselves, that it is for the unwashed 'yahoos and google bellies' who wander through. We civilized folk could even indulge in occasional 'bear baiting' for the amusement of the crowd. Though, if their tours are only through the 'wild animal park' they may miss the salutary and edifying experience provided by the rest of the board, which would be a real loss for them, so it may be of general benefit to keep the Mo Pai menace free, though declawed ('Aye there's the rub', how to declaw them!), so that the tourists will have to, albeit unknowingly, be exposed to the rest of our learned, informative and sometimes even interesting discussions. I also suspect that pruned of their ability to freely go forth and insult and forced to actually post what is known and can be verified about Mo Pai without filling it full of exciting action based on insult and imagined injury, that it will soon be clear that there is not much content to it. Even the Kunlun controversies had more to discuss than Mo Pai and no forum was created for Kunlun.

I voted no for the following reasons: First, Mo Pai has been the source of more wasted time on this forum than any other single subject. Second, there is precious little concrete information in the way of factual accounts of practices and these have been posted and commented on endlessly between vast stretches of acrimonious posts. Third, Mo Pai is generally not of enough interest to merit a place of its own. Fourth, the only reason for creating this seems to be: the unruly conduct of the discussions. Fifth, such a forum will only encourage the creation of new 'transformation bodies', a polite word phrase for sock puppets, to come on here and influence that discussion and create a private problem, rather than a public one. Sixth, there already exists a way for anyone who is interested to create their own Mo Pai forum as part of a personal practice forum. Finally, I suggest that anyone interested enough in Mo Pai to want the Tao Bums to pay attention to it, to first start their own PPF, or create a sub-forum on one they already have, and then spend several weeks searching through all of the Mo Pai threads already on the Tao Bums and copying the locations of important threads and comments and bringing them together in an index and invite others to help in this if they are interested. If someone is not willing to do that for Mo Pai and demonstrate thereby that they are seriously interested, and by the value of the material that is collected and collated, that Mo Pai is worth the effort, then there is no reason for the Tao Bums to create a private space for what has so far been a tremendous waste of time, which unfortunately is not as limitless as the cyberspace in which it is stored. As a general policy maybe we do need to start a 'tough love' approach to Mo Pai in which Mo Pai threads that simply start to get unruly will be locked and pitted, in short be polite or begone. This may create some incentive to keep the discussion civil, because if after a certain number of posts everything that they had tried to get out publicly here vanishes when the thread goes sour, then there will be less and less incentive just to start a thread just because you can and more to keep it civil. Mo Pai advocates have brought considerations such as these on themselves.

Thanks for posting this 'dawai', it will make it available to interested parties. This was one of the fundamental books in my understanding because it is the only one to clarify the nature of real Great Work as involving three stages, the development of the fire, the generation of the perfect sulfur and the compounding of the 'elixir' which is the actual 'medicine of metals' and is also used for treating people. This I was able to equate with the idea of three Dan in Chinese internal alchemy as part of what I have described as fruitful cross cultural comparison. This was not the only similarity, but only one of many. What is described in the second part for metals holds true for herbal working as well, it is paradigmatic of alchemical practice, which should not be confused with the outer method of making 'stones' and 'tinctures', which is sometimes called spagyrics to differentiate it from the genuine alchemical process. This is why this book is so important as a general overview, the Hermetic model of the cosmos which it describes is the model for all true alchemical operations, it is the Macrocosm of which, what is going on in the alchemists vessels must be an accurate microcosm, if it is not the operation fails. Thus the key to the book is seeing how the description of nature laid out in the first part is reflected in the paradigmatic operations of the second part.

The first part of Pernety's book is an extended treatise on the four elements and how the work together to link the 'as above' to the 'so below', in other words the dynamics of the Emerald Tablet write large, it is part of the reason why Edward Kelly could write a work on alchemy called 'The Theatre of Terrestrial Astrology': Edward Kelly; the Englishman's Two Excellent Treatises on the Philosopher's Stone and the Theatre of Terrestrial Asrtology I found this worldview extremely useful in understanding the dynamics of Enochian Magic and it is also just an extension of the Treatment that exists in Agrippa.

The single most useful work which I read on the Western Hermetic worldview and its relation to Alchemical Practice was: An Alchemical Treatise on the Great Art, by Antoine-Joseph Pernety A relatively late work, but extremely informative.

If by external alchemy you mean the alchemy of the macrocosm and internal alchemy you mean the alchemy of the microcosm, then there is a huge literature on external alchemy written in the West which you can find here: Adam Mclean's Alchemy Website On a scholarly level, Volume Five of Science and Civilization in China Covers this from a very insightful perspective. Science and Civilization in China on Wikipedia Since I first studied these books, the order of them has been modified and I basically studied what would now be called Vol. 5, parts 2, 3, and 4. I found in these a level of insight into the worldview necessary to understand alchemy which had taken me years of thought and study to achieve by the study of original sources, I am assuming that this would be in part 2, which I am also assuming used to be part 1. The early 1970s was a time when I was particularly studying alchemy in both Chinese and Western terms. There is a fundamental similarity which makes cross-cultural comparison fruitful. Of course I can hardly begin to describe it here. In Daoist Mineral, Animal and Plant Magic on p. 316, Jerry Alan Johnson begins a section called 'Ancient Chinese Plant Alchemy', aside from some details related to how this was approached in China, the actual instructions are not that different from what you would find here: The Practical Handbook of Plant Alchemy by Manfred Junius or if you want to go back to the work of the man who started the modern revival of laboratory alchemy in the West, here: The Alchemist's Handbook by Frater Albertus The way to look at the big picture is to see that there are two subdivisions of neidan and weidan, in this case interpreted as microcosmic alchemy and macrocosmic alchemy, which in turn are subdivided into neidan and weidan, where in the microcosmic weidan the work is with pre-natal energies and weidan with post-natal energies, explaining the macrocosmic alchemical equivalent would require too much time right now. I hope this is helpful for a quick overview.

You're welcome. Here is a link that I left out of the original because I was a little rushed: Just scroll right along on eHow Maybe if you make a 'scrolling example' it will be an easier sell.

May I suggest a simple workaround until you get a better solution? On my site I use the html Iframe command to create a scrollable window for long content. Rather than trying to translate a whole PDF document to WordPress see if you can create a scrolling window for your document. It actually might work well for a newsletter. Just make it so that it only needs to scroll down, or maybe sideways,then it is fairly convenient.

This has been examined in considerable detail in: Jesus the Magician by Morton Smith This one has the virtue of a forward by Bart Ehrman, a respected contemporary New Testament scholar. I originally read the book back in the seventies and aside from what it says about the possibility that Jesus was a magician, its analysis of Hellenistic and Graec-Egyptian magic is worth the read in and of itself. A very insightful book. Edit: in the original I had accidentally italicized 'by Mortton Smith', corrected it.

I find it amazing how much physical objects can help with many things. That is an amazing story, thank you for sharing it. It definitely shows the power of healing and the power of love . With physical objects you can also "name" them, after the person, or part of the person whether good or bad. Say the arm you wish to have work again, such as in the above case, or perhaps something they wish to get rid of such as say alcoholism (then burn it). Though don't forget that you named it after and just store it in some dusty attic forever lol, un-name it after it is no longer needed. Yes, manitou is a very insightful and talented woman and apparently she and her husband, Joe do a lot of good work. She and I had discussed this case a few months ago and I found it interesting. She and I have slightly different points of view, but I still appreciate her intelligence and the integrity which she brings to her work. Bringing the 'physical' into a working is all about respecting the world in which we live as a 'representation' of divine being, full of the power to manifest divinity to us, even if only through the 'occult virtue', of willow tea, the original source of aspirin, to relieve a fever. This is the willow trees divine gift to us, this is the basis of real ritual, this is what magic is all about.

People who are involved in spiritual practices need to be a hundred times more careful than ordinary people about relationships. It sounds to me that you got off lucky and your antagonist may not be very strong, but I have seen wrong relationships with the wrong person ruin lives and for reasons that have to do with magic and psychic attack, not mere 'broken hearts'. Regarding attracting this type of thing, sometimes what attracts this is nothing more than someone looking like a tasty and vulnerable lamb looks to a wolf, and yes, they often dress up in sheep's clothing. Based on your description and the good advice you have received you should be fine. If however things don't improve you might want to contact BaquaKicksAss, she has a lot of experience with this type of thing and is 'in the business' of doing things about it.

I have done it a little. You might start by buying this: Chinese Medicinal Wines and Elixers by Bob Flaws This is dealt with in some other books, but this one came to mind immediately.

Sometimes the Holy Comma manifests the empty void because of infidelity, just like Israel wandered in the wilderness for forty years thanks to the temptation of the Golden Calves. Other times the Holy Comma manifests the void which is full, revealing a sacred mystery. Yea and verily, Vortex Entities, what a concept. Think about it, and may the sacred light be extended unto you.

Yes, sometimes while writing in a state of high inspiration, people enter the sacred state and become comma-tose. It doesn't stop them from continuing to write though. Thank the keepers of the High Holy Mysteries for that.

I think they are the creation of the mysterious missing comma. Try reading it as 'From the perspective of Vortex, entities etc.' Vortex being a particular healing system that Jetsun has found useful.

Dion Fortune, was not only an experienced ceremonial magician, but also: In Chapter 11 of Psychic Self Defense, titled 'The Psychic Element in Mental Disturbance', she examined the relationship between 'mental illness' and 'psychic influences', this is from that chapter: In a discussion online Nugali gave this link to an interesting paper by Wilson van Dusen, who 'was Chief Psychologist at Mendocino State Hospital in California' and worked among the mentally ill for seventeen years: Wilson van Dusen 'The Presence of Spirits in Madness' It is worth a read. Also, in Jerry Alan Johnson's books he gives a traditional Chinese view of the relationship between internal and external causes involving the Po Souls. I can check the exact references if anyone is interested.