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i could get there within 30 minutes

it is like riding a bike my friend. at first you will feel uneasy, you will want to stop riding. you fear that you might crash and get hurt so you use the training wheels. in time you can remove those and walking will seem slow.

today is my 26th day of retention and due to my recent findings i will post some tools here that i believe will help all retain. the movements are of hatha yoga and basically mimic pranayama externally. they also claim various health benefits; if that's true great but if not that's fine to - we're doing it for simple retention. here is the first asana, it is known as "Sirshana" it is done by locking your fingers together on the floor and thus making a triangle-like shaped figure and then putting your head inside of it. i suggest you use a wall for a while to practice and get the use of it as you will fall if you try it without. breathe only through the nose in this asana. i first held this posture at about a minute and 10 seconds, i am now up to two minutes. my advice would be to just hold for as long as you can and everyday increase by 10 seconds (or more, if you like). here is the second asana, also known as "Sarvangasana" it is asked you do this asana after Sirshana and also claims various health benefits; the only one im concerned with is stopped nocturnal emissions, which it does say it stops. it is pretty self-explanatory from the photo and this one gives a recommended practice time of 5 minutes and then continue progressing from then at your own pace. this is the last asana named Matsyasana; this is to ease out any cramps or stiffness developed from long term practice of the above asanas. do not frighten, it is not as complicated as it looks. simply get in full lotus, lay down (with your feet still in full lotus) and arch your head so that it is flat on the ground. you should feel a burn in your lower back and that will signify it is working. you can hold this for as long as you like, as it gives no recommended practice time. again i suggest you do it as long as you can and add slowly onto that. once finished your back will feel good and light. all of these asanas where taken from the book "Practice of Brahmacharya" which can be found in it's entirety (here). if you are truly curious it has a lot of information you can utilize without having to be drawn into it's anti-sex semantics. good luck to you all.

this has happened to me when switching from cold to hot really fast, ie. going from jacuzzi into pool.

merry christmas to you mal, although i'll have to wait for tomorrow for it to actually be christmas in the usa... lol.

what does any of this have to do with enlightenment?

i know of a path that requires you do not pay a dime and will allow you to awaken the consciousness in one lifetime; it doesn't involve qigong, either.

this is how we know, i posted this previously that there was a medical study in which the men that regularly consumed dairy products had a much higher risk of prostate cancer. retention is not dangerous, i do not seek to argue but to inform those who wish to try it. for example, the oneida community of the 1850s practiced coitus reservatus and no ill side effects where noted in the men. here is a quote from the wikipedia page (it can be found here) you can, of course, become celibate and not do any sexual practices but that is not the way to go - you should not reject the energy, which is where i believe it is possible for danger to arise; you should use the energy to your advantage as the highest quality spiritual catalyst we have.

your words cut through the propaganda sifu lin - right through it. people have been practicing retention since written history, i'm willing to bet prostate cancer didn't even exist then, heh. when you try retention notice the first few days how attached you really are to your sexual acts... if that isn't enough to give you the will power to move on i do not know what to tell you. the best of luck to all of you

the alleged dangers of sexual retention this i do not understand at all. people claiming that sexual retention can be hazardous for your health. i do not see how it would be dangerous to your health to keep the energy that created you; instead of wasting it for a few seconds for sensual pleasure. i believe this is a deep, deep rooted ego of lust that does not want to give up. ask yourself that next time, why do i want to orgasm? why? your mind will give you an instant response and that isn't what we're looking for here, you must look deep inside.. meditate on it. do not get me wrong - there are side effects to retention, but i wouldn't call them dangerous. at first it will be difficult, you are pretty much re-wiring your bodies system to save instead of spend, and we all know savings accounts have higher apr rating, ha! you may feel pains in odd areas, areas you may have not even explored on your body.. you may even become sick for some time (as i am now sick out of the blue). however, this is something to look forward to i believe, as this is a sign of something marvelous going on inside: detoxification. see, when you spend your time spilling your seed every "cycle" or in some cases every day, your body has no time to regenerate. you give your body the message "this guy is creating life here, let's give the best we got to create a new human" your body does not know you are just enjoying yourself. once you stop this process your body no longer has to focus on obtaining energy to replenish it's reserves once lost from the orgasm, giving time for some well overdue healing. this is where you feel the aches, the pains, the sickness etc. then on the second part you have those whom bring up the idea that orgasm will help the prostate. think of this for a moment, why is it that prostate cancer is only highly rampant in the united states? scientists believe it is the high use of dairy products, probably the lack of exercise and high obesity rates, too. nonetheless, there is other forms of caring to your prostate rather than exercising it via expulsion. massaging the pubococcygeus muscle externally provides some relief to the prostate without having an orgasm. all in all, retention is not for everyone. some people love the orgasm and couldn't imagine life without it - that is fine, everyone will live their life. remember this, though, that your sensual desires will never be satisfied and in absence of their satisfaction is their dissatisfaction, and thus is the never ending cycle of desire.

no dude, you have me all wrong. all i am saying is that this forum is going to lose a lot of activity if a kunlun forum is made. everything that isn't in agreeance with you doesn't mean it's negative - it just means it isn't your opinion. fact is that most of the discussion on this board is about kunlun; if a board just for kunlun is made you can kiss activity here bye bye.

vibe on this board ? this board might as well be called "the kunlun bums", there is 8 topics in general that all deal with kunlun and they are pretty much the only active topics. if it isn't about kunlun people aren't posting in it. this forums statement is made once you visit the main page sounds like this has been lost and if you don't like kunlun you're "badmouthing" it.

cameron's word has lost more value than the us dollar LOL !!

that is because i believe the path is for me and the only true path. i said it less than 5 posts ago that this is my path it may not be yours. you simply sound like a skeptic to me now and i'm going to stop replying.

i have stated many times it may not be for everyone but it is mine - people have the ability to decipher, you aren't needed as a middle man.

see the thing is i never wished for intellectual debate - this is my path and that's that. i believe it is the only way, why do you wish to bring me elsewhere? the entire idea of debating is to convince. to convince someone else you're right to make them more like you; you do not have to believe and more power to you if you don't - i do.

it is the only one - i don't see anyone enlightened on this forum

i said up above you are free to your own opinion, do not take matters so seriously. this is my path, it may not be yours. take it easy.

19 days and i'm still dry, is anyone else doing this?

yogananda's kriya yoga is incomplete; primarily because when Sri Yukteswar Giri told him to marry, (to teach him the sexual practices), he disagreed.

i'm sorry if this offends you but that just seemed like a whole bunch of ego jibberish to me.

in the words of jiddu krishnamurti

it isn't, hence how funny it is !! LOL !!

ROFL ROFL ROFL !!!!!!!!!