WestwardMonkey

I know this way is not as effective because it is not permant but it can buy me time (less energy loss) and put me in a calmer state of concousness maybe awaking in my mind to a better way. Far as the herbs I tried some odd ones chastberry has dropped my sexual desires but it is very potent by itself you can get depressed and can make your body colder. Black cohosh root can be really effective to by itself but it can give you headache with prolonged use and make your body colder. I am trying to counter act some of the side effects with dong quai and red dates. Which I have not found a good balance yet but I am still better off then yesterday. Now when I said about these being odd herbs one most can already see there more for females. I was contemplating the Tao Te Ching verse 28 "Know the male but hold to the female become the world's stream. By being the world's stream the power will never leave. This is a returning to infancy." I relized my mind is seeking femine nature through sexual desire so if it is satisfied the thought vanishises. I keep usage to once in the morning maybe once in the evening. But if anyone reads this and tries this don't over do it you don't want to become a female its just for the mind.

Cool I have been looking for sites with info I will have to check that out. Now I saw you were having trouble during sleep. I have found if you reiforce a though in your head like a mantra but not as excessive just more regulary it will come to you in sleep and can protect your cultivation when your dreams lead you astray.

I never contemplated it that way. I have reflected on other things in a similar fashion but not my concepts on celibacy. My mind seems to always be in motion to endless possibilities some have improved my life some have not but it seems this issue has been at the root of it. My life has settled in the greater sense I feel peace unattached thing flow naturally it is just this last aspect that has not setted. I guess I am still seeking nourishment from the mother and maturing slowly. But I'm patient. Thanks for you insite though it will help mature a little more.

I thought I would get a discussion going on what type of reasons might prevents one from discussing certain Taoist related topics in cultvation. 1) I know some masters I found talk in a way that you do not grasp what they are saying until your mind is in the right place. For instance if you are attached to desires and emotions this can colorize the way you preceive what the master said. Which can save a student from having information they are not ready for. 2) What about information in dreams. Dreams can have information that can enlighten one to the Tao and from what sources do they come? 3) Are there thing that cannot ever become know or is it just the timing? 4) How about appreciating a rare gift. I will give an example of what I am trying to say. Now when I was in high school I had to work to buy myself a car my dad and mom never paided for it. I also had to wait an extra year with my dad learning to drive he wanted to take me out in all conditions before I drove. I took very good care of my car. Now the opposite I had some friends that were given there cars with out any work needed. They did not worry if something happend to the car because dad or mom took care of it. They became attached to there parent like using a crutch for a leg that is not even broken. I even remeber one friend playing chicken with another friend flipping his car and losing some finger in the process. 5) Is a master not telling something to keep in balance with the universe a infinate place of mystery or to keep a high standard for his student? 6) Do some master claim heavenly secrets but have none? 7) Is it because anything existing even words must die? yang flows to yin? 8) Is it because karma comes from the mouth? but though the bad moments of trial and error we learn the way? 9) Is it because there is too much or too little to say? What are your thoughts?