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Sky very clear tonight and Orion and Sirius quite glorious in the south - my poor eyesight could only pick out the Pleiades as a ptch of light tho'

... Ah ok so Hadit is Bedheti ... I don't think Hadit is an Egyptian word. According to Griffiths (I think) the name Bedhedti is spelt with a glyph of a moveable throne - because this was originally a god of the North which moved South to Edfu. But I'm not sure everyone accepts this. I read a very interesting paper on the winged disk but unfortunately I can't find it so I can't link to it. The winged disk was essentially a protective deity often placed on door lintels and the like to ward off bad influence. Essentially it is a kind of fusion of Horus and Ra - or indeed the eye of horus/ra (although the ye was female !?). hadit sounds a little Hebrew to me - is that where he got it from? I would suggest the Nuit/Hadit thing is about the idea of the unified being (the one) in the continuum of consciousness = the star filled sky????????

This will explain everything:

It is correct that in Ancient Egyptian the 't' ending denotes the feminine. But both Nuit and Hadit are Thelemic deities - the sky goddess in Egypt was Nut and her counterpart was the earth Geb. The circle and the centre business sounds a little like Bruno or one of the Hermetic doctrines to me.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/0810.1592.pdf

Just one more thing on slaves: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/tesco-charity-cards-packed-by-chinas-prison-slaves-v9psp9fqx

https://www.livescience.com/28961-ancient-giza-pyramid-builders-camp-unearthed.html

yep I've been to Washington, DC. - a very sterile place I thought, too much design and not organic growth. And indeed that is one thing a pyramid might stand for but not the only one.

That's Freemasonariness ... Egypt suffers from a great deal of back projection.

In what sense do pyramids poison the land they grow on?

Also presumably for those who manage to climb the slippery pyramid - life is sweet. I would also say, without wishing to sound too spooky, that there is a lot of very ancient magic encoded into pyramids and the like, they are not (only) instruments of oppression.

Life is short, the days are brief, I'm going to need my handkerchief, An O a D might come my way, On this the shortest ever day. The sun goes up, the sun goes down, I always smile and never frown, While I sit here on my rug, Waiting for an energy hug. I've stored my jing and lit my qi, My heart is still, my mind is free, But copper wires? I think I'll pass, I'm fussy what I'll stick up my ______ .

Going back to the Gobekli Tepe thing, it would seem that the first stone structures were round and not houses or forts etc. (assuming for a moment they were 'first' in some sense) and linked with early agriculture i.e. sowing of naturally wild grasses. If the buildings were for 'ritual' purposes (I know this doesn't mean anything as a phrase but maybe we could say not functional in a material sense) - then it does suggest that the movement from pure hunter gatherer to settled communities was at least in part due to a change in how humans conceived of themselves and their purpose in life. It suggests this to me in any case Following on from this - I can't quite accept the purely practical reason for square based pyramid structures - although yes, I guess its true that this is probably the easiest way to construct a stable, large artificial hill. But the orientation, symbolism and internal structure makes them (esp. the GP) packed with meaning. And what was happening was the rise of an elite who placed themselves at the top over the plebs - and interestingly in the case of Egypt associated this 'topness' with Horus = awareness. This is some kind of competence hierarchy where the most competent is the one who can see the big picture - coercion as TM has pointed out is certainly the method - although presumably there was some carrot as well as stick. There is also the issue of forging identities - so even the lowly consider themselves better as part of a totemic group: the little people are kept in line!

Probably not.

Being a simpleton I thought it went (1) hunter-gatherer - (2) pastoralism - (3) agriculture - in that order.

I meant spiritual as in 'of the spirit' = energy/awareness (maybe) - although I wouldn't rule out some evolutionary neural effects (in the broadest sense) where our hardwired world view caused some shift in consciousness.

I'd call it spiritual rather than supernatural.

I think the coercion - which undoubtedly existed - was secondary. As in 'we can build a world this way - to do this we have to make others do what they are told.'

No worries as far as I am concerned. If you have physical pain etc. see a doctor or physio perhaps. Otherwise avoid energy work or vigorous physical stuff for a while till you feel better. Your subtle body and physical body are in a close feedback loop with each other so one affects the other - sometimes drastically. If you carry emotional tension then any forceful energy work or sex can be very disruptive. I think you should get some teachings off someone competent if you can. Otherwise eat well and go for long walks and look at nature if you can to harmonise.

A mere 8 year gap is no obstacle to a good argument

It's fairly fundamental to ask, in terms of 'advanced people theories' what we mean by advanced and what are the causes and conditions of advancement. And other interesting questions such as why people all over the world at some time or another come up with the idea of building pyramid type structures (seems almost universal). I think until these questions are settled ideas about how cultures originate will not be resolved. I think, probably that what is behind all 'civilisation' is the mental shift from living off one's environment to that of manipulating your environment to suit you. As I am a non-materialist I suspect that this change in outlook happened first - i.e. some kind of spiritual/emotional change in humans occurred which brought about this desire to build communities around controlled environments - ok this in itself might have been responsive to things like climate change (for instance a response to catastrophe - 'we won't let that happen again') but still the change in outlook probably must have pre-dated any change in lifestyle.

No I haven't - looks good tho'.

In my mythology it came to pass that a great and mighty being descended to earth in a small suberb of Cambridge, England and went on to father a generation of white cats which ruled the earth for at least 20 mins on a Tuesday in April.

Guys, guys let's not argue about 8.8% vs. 10% or whatever.