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Hi, It's a bit unfortunate that when you asked for help your thread got turned into a pro/anti Jeff argument. DaoBums is an open forum and on these issues there is no orthodox view - so people post from their own perspective and what they believe to be true. Jeff does remote energy work and some people say they have benefited and others say it is harmful. You've had the offer from Jeff and the warnings from others - so I guess you'll have to make up your own mind about this. Overall trust your own sense and intuition and you won't go far wrong.

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First of all (and this is just my thoughts on what you wrote) I would not view this kind of thing as being necessarily negative. It is positive for instance that you have become conscious of these things and although it is unpleasant you can view this as a stage in progress. There's an issue for all of us to balance 'letting go' with 'effort' and it's a kind of tangled web as it is based in fundamental misunderstanding of who we are - which we have to work through. So the first thing I would say is don't get frustrated or exasperated by these experiences - they are things that all of us have to work through. Try to be an interested observer who can try out different things to find a way through. It may help to think about the idea that in addition to a physical body you also have an energy body (subtle body), mental and consciousness/will also. Very often the solution to problems at one level e.g. physical, are resolved at a 'higher' level. For instance small realignments in the subtle body can make a big difference at the physical - instead of trying to tackle things head-on if you see what I mean. Most if not all blockages are emotional (in the sense that they influence/control the way in which energy moves in your being). By this I am not promoting therapy as in self indulgent psychoanalysis but an acknowledgement that emotions are functioning all the time - when we sleep and during the day. Are there no teachers or classes near where you live that you could attend? Not all charge silly high rates and some basic practice with others might help you through this. Other than that apart from good diet and exercise I would recommend keeping a log or diary making short notes of your daily experiences and what ideas occur to you about them. Read around the subject of either kundalini or neidan but without attempting anything forceful. Treat yourself gently and try to 'make haste slowly' with a step by step approach to turning round how you feel. Others in here will probably give more 'technical' advice - so I hope this doesn't sound too waffly (?)! Best wishes A.

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Try from this post - its a direct download pdf. Ooops you meant Pankenier didn't you. I have it if you PM me with an email address.

Be nice people. Remember we are supposed to be cultivating. respect, respect, respect.

We were very nice to the Huguenots and we eat camembert.

Thank you so much, dear chap, but I was already aware of the origins of English. I would say though that we never call William the Conquerer, Normand ... although he was a Norman (i.e. North man). Which means, of course that although he did speak French he was actually descended from Norse men who had settled in that part of northern France which came to be known as Normandy. That very same place where our grandparents stormed the beaches to throw out the Nazi scum some 900 years later.

Hi, I see you stepped straight way into the maelstrom which is Daobums! I'm going to say a few things at odds with advice you've already had just for the sake of thickening the stew. If you are based in the Western tradition you are bound to be eclectic. Its in the blood. There's something about the western approach which is like this and no bad thing in my view. I have studied/practiced (for years) Ancient Egypt, Hermeticism, to a certain extent Kabbalah and Christian mysticism, taken refuge as a Tibetan Buddhist, practiced qi gong and neidan and read about practically every thing else. I should be a mess apparently - but I'm not (I don't think ). If you have the right attitude then you can't read too much. I agree if you read in the wrong way then you can confuse yourself - but if you read in the right way you will enrich yourself. The secret is not to be grasping at truth or power - but more like a beachcomber wandering through the landscape picking up morsels and interesting objects here and there. I like Damo Mitchells books but I haven't followed his system so I can't say how well they work. You seem to get plenty of physical exercise which is good. But you live in the high crime area - I've done this and it can be quite disruptive. The thing is that the level and discordancy of energy coming at you can be hard to assimilate and leave you toxic. So you need to address this somehow (maybe the best way is as you say moving to Holland). In terms of your energy drain from shamanic practice - I am guessing here - that you have the idea that your energy levels are something which requires effort from you to maintain. But although this is true on a minor level and you do need discipline - generally your energy level is dependent on the field around you - sun, season, moon, earth and so on - and you may like to think more in terms of letting yourself recharge rather than putting great effort in. Simple meditation on breath will do this provided you relax mental control - or this is what I experience anyway. The best thing for your subtle body and its health and integrity is conduct. Being positive towards those around you, helpful if needed, be disciplined in diet and sex and so on, guard the three treasures - most of all treat your own being with respect as if you were someone you are taking care of. Over time these things build up a really strong and radiant energy body. Cheers A.

It caused you start speaking French! That truly is a disaster

Just sharing this cos i like it . Especially this part 'So therefore, if you let it be, in fact, the things we want the most actually come.' Sounds quite Daoist for a Buddhist

there was a slack chatroom but Sean deleted the link. it does still exist in cyberspace tho'

Did you let your point be, Luke?

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/your-gut-directly-connected-your-brain-newly-discovered-neuron-circuit?utm_campaign=ScienceNow&utm_source=JHubbard&utm_medium=Facebook A very old new discovery

..and a Happy Dao Year.

Funny that everyone accepts the Toba eruption but denies the Younger Dryas impact because it's not a gradualist explanation.

yeah I know he says that but I didn't find it very convincing ... but hey what do I know?

I am no expert in these fields but I think one thing missed or brushed over in that video is that for linguistics the family tree of languages has a definite time direction i.e. phonemes (?) morph in a way that indicates which language developed from which - thus you can't start at any point as the origin - that's why PIE is postulated - it is an unknown language which pre-dates the others. Similarly for genetics to point to small differences as not being significant is I would guess a mistake - because the study of the genomes can say which developed out of which. He also brushed over the early out of Africa populations in the Middle East as if they didn't exist. Where I agree with him though is that much of this is a search for European identity - because of course so many of the scientist are European (or American) - and that may well skew the interpretation.

The Rishi's may well be right but some explanation has to be provided for the following (apart from just dismissing it): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3769933/

.... Hey! You stole a loaf of bread and transportation is fair and reasonable punishment - so get over it.

Believe it or not, as a Brit I am open to these ideas. A few years ago my aged mother went on a course on Indian history at Oxford Uni. and came back and said the lecturer (who was Indian) said that they owed the British for the idea of their history because before the western scholars there was no such thing as Indian history. All part of the India as a timeless mystical realm which the Raj liked to spin. I did try to explain to her that many Indian scholars would object to that view - but she just said 'but he was Indian, and a very nice man' - so I couldn't convince her on that point. But I get a bit put off when these speakers (in the vids you link to) go on about 18th and 19th century ideas which no one takes seriously any more. Really its time to move on from what they thought in 1780 or whatever. I live in Portugal and so there's even more connection with Goa (in fact the present prime-minister is Goan originally - he gets some racism even in this laid back place) and Vasco da Gama and so on. I think the problem is for me, even being willing to rethink all my assumptions about India etc. it seems to me they are trying to replace scientific enquiry i.e. verified evidence based theory, with the authority of the Rishis and the ancient texts. That's not to say they are wrong - its just they need to complete the circle by for instance using the archeological record and so on in a convincing and non-disputable way. I was a bit put off by one vid which described Romila Thopal as a Marxist - I'm pretty sure she's not - so I guess there's a high degree of tension between the academics of various strains in India.

It doesn't say 'let the cat be hungry'

I know who my masters are

Yeah right.