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Hi, Something tells me we have had this discussion before. I can quote from one of Milarepa's songs: Marpa of Lhodrak, who has been so kind, By remembering you from my heart, I meditate with you there. Again and again I supplicate you to never be separate from me. Mixing one’s mind with the guru’s is so blissful. A la la! The nature of appearances Is pointed out as birthless dharmakaya, And they merge, uncontrived, with the state of dharmakaya. I’m not concerned whether some views are high and others low. This uncontrived mind is so blissful indeed! This nature of mind is luminosity-emptiness. That luminosity-emptiness is pointed out as awareness And they merge in the uncontrived, innate state. I’m not concerned over good or bad meditation. This uncontrived mind is so blissful indeed! The sixfold collection clear right in its own place. Is pointed out as nondual, free of perceiver and perceived, And both pleasure and pain are merged into one. With this body, uncontrived, in its primordial state, I’m not concerned over right or wrong conduct. This uncontrived mind is so blissful indeed! The fruition is the nature of dharmakaya. The variety is pointed out as nirmanakaya. Everything, when encountered, is merged with the state of liberation, But I have no hope of any fruition. This uncontrived mind is so blissful indeed! See first verse in bold. That's the best I can do for now. Do you have links to those Buddhist discussions? What school of Buddhism were they? I'll have to think about Bhumi - as far as I am thinking completion stage Guru Yoga is enough - but I am not sure.

Hi, i was asking the source of this assertion by Jeff "Ok. Classical Buddhism is wrong about mind streams all being separate with no overlap. " - which I think you agreed with. Also: this by CC I'm not sure where this (mis)-understanding came from.

Mind-stream or citta-santana is a teaching from Yogacara Buddhism and not Classical Buddhism (if by that you mean early Buddhism). I'm not sure where people are getting this merging or not-merging thing from as the mind-stream is understood as a continuum - but please provide links of references to see what you are quoting. It just looks like strawmanning to me to be honest. But as I say show me the source - I would like to see it. By the way in Vajrayana the guru's and student's minds merge in the Sambhogakaya. PS. to the post somewhere above - 'rebirth' is not the same as reincarnation and can be seen as a direct consequence of the citta-santana - since tho' we may die it does not - it is not the same as the incarnation of the Atman through many lives which is Hindu thought not Buddhist.

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Couple of points about vipassana and shamatha from the perspective of mahamudra. And in response to dmattwads comments above. What is said that obscures meditation are karmas, habitual formations and conflicting emotions. So - stuff from the past, our own obsessions and addictions and our confused emotional responses. So its not really surprising that meditation can cause some 'backlash' - though I would say that this is usually part of the purification process - so all that shit has to come out and it can be painful. The best way i have found to deal with emotional states is to study them. That is you look at them without trying to change them - and you ask yourself where did this arise from, is it durable/permanent and when it subsides where does it go or what does it leave. Particularly if you just look at them intently without trying to change them - you will notice right away that they are changed and that they keep morphing as you examine them. This means they are temporary fluid structures (anger, hate, jealousy and so on) which only arise out of a complex of causes. When you see this you can let them go and they naturally start to dissolve. Its not very easy to do this but effective I have found. In mahamudra there is both vipassana and shamatha - but I would say they are reconceived slightly. That is shamatha is resting in the mind as it is and vipassana is examining the mind as it is. What is said about this is that they are not really two. So for instance to do shamatha effectively you cannot just rest - which would risk dullness/sleep and so on - but you have to check how settled you mind is - so in shamatha there is an element of vipassana (which means something like vivid looking). Similarly in vipassana its helpful not to have a scattered mind to practice so in looking at mind there is an element where you are stilling it also. So the two work hand in hand rather than being alternatives.

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No - bless you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermind_(novel) this thread reminded me of this

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Ladies and Gentlemen, General Discussion is for talk on spiritual paths while everything else belongs in the Rabbit Hole. For this reason I am moving this topic to there. Rules still apply - so please deal with this subject sensitively. Apech for Mod Team.

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really. So how did they get from this to the Renaissance? if they were stupid?

European culture did develop science - how did they manage this if they were stupid?

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