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Start here I would suggest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daozang ... I would also suggest after the LaoTzu to read Chuang Tzu or if you want an overview you could try Taoism by Eva Wong or Daoism A Guide for the Perplexed by Louis Komjathy.

Obviously I meant Mormons.

Really? I thought you looked up doxies on a regular basis.

I prefer the picaresque life of a poxy doxy.

A fitting role for a young wench such as thee.

I'm a six penny whore.

Whoever drew the plans has some explaining to do.

Can't get into chat ... is there a problem.

I don't like FB much and twitter seems like a time wasting exercise which I'm guessing has had its day. But I would be interested in how people think DBs could improve along these lines - for instance I think Chat is under used and also perhaps ways of creating photo and video libraries (?).

I would guess that we need to understand more about how early pastoral communities worked.

That's nothing I spat in your coffee.

Sounds good. But this is not new is it?

They send you money? Karl is going to bomb Florida now.

Don't ever stand for President will you.

What? - you'd nuke the middle east?

I don't hate life.

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A blade? What a knife?

That's quite bizarre what exactly are you talking about?

I think Jetsun's link above could be helpful as I was taught something similar and it works. I have several times felt specific energy drains around people who were ill or dying for instance. I think there are instances where people need this energy and I don't mind giving it. But generally also there are also people who like to be energy dependent. As you point out it is unconscious (mostly).

Phew! There's a lot in your last post. I'm guessing you don't really want to discuss yinyang-wuxing theory as mentioned in your first post but are more interested in the experiential energy working. However, I would agree that jing-qi-shen are a spectrum of energy, rather like ice-water-steam ... phase shifts of the same essential substance. Jing is the most condensed without actually being a physical substance. The Wu-Xing five element theory has an interesting history, there are some good resources for study of this. Some of what you say is suggestive of Kan Li and the reversion to Qian - K'un. That is a post celestial to pre-celestial state. Dual cultivation is a special topic and I will leave others to answer this. As regards other threads - well this one is very good so I would push it until you feel the need to open up a whole new area.

Thanks for your thoughtful contributions! Very interesting

Great questions. I have thoughts but not answers as such. So I'll just set them out in no particular order. The physical body appears to us as fixed and certain. In fact I believe that it is the quest for certainty which has led humankind to focus more and more into the physical objective world. Whereas at some times in the past we were much more in tune with the noumenal and subtle than we are today. This gives many quite a lot of distrust when someone starts to talk about subtle energy flows and so on. Disbelief, mockery, dismissal and so on. But with some practice it's not that hard to start to feel energy - but of course you would have to want to do it to even try. There are some of course to whom this happens spontaneously - then they are left with a lot of confusion because this world does not usually supply the terminology or understanding to deal with such a thing. However among those who can feel energy - then some exchange is possible - and its value is perhaps to strengthen confidence and also confirm that you are not going crazy (LOL!). There are a couple of problems though. Because the subtle realm is subtle and not as fixed as the physical world - it responds readily to intention, thought and the energy makeup of the person practicing. We are not all the same in this respect - though it is possible to categorise people under different 'types' - ultimately we are unique in both the exact energy configuration we have and also our personal history which informs how we look at the world. For instance some people are intensely visual and will easily see images, forms, figures, lights and so on while others not so much, and some people not at all. So two people might describe the same energy process quite differently and have to spend some time discussing what they experience to satisfy themselves that they are talking about the same thing. This brings us on to systems and schools and so on. The advantage of these is that they do have an agreed set of terms - so people within the same system can probably discourse more easily about energy effects then they can with outsiders. Also because subtle energy responds to intent and thoughts - then you can't really disengage what is happening to you from what you are thinking about or what you 'believe' is going on. So there might be a lot of preconceptions which you would have to address before trying to have an exchange free of traditions.