Apech
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Yep just discovered the place. Which is just as true as those vids being evidence of anything. But each to his own.
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Ok Jeff now sum that up into the point you want to make.
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That allegory is not saying what you are saying. That's why I asked. Buddhism does not say what you are saying - so I guess it must be Bon teaching if you got it from those books.
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Do you mean Plato's cave?
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Not Shentong - that school just says that Buddha-nature is 'empty of other'.
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Hmmm ... well since I don't know what Thogal visions are I'll leave it there.
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How and in what way has Mo Pai been properly validated?
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Puzzled. Is that Bon teaching or your own idea? (the world causing your vision)
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fair enough.
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The central practice of Dzogchen, as far as I can see, is to read a lot of books (mostly entitled 'the Secret Oral Teachings ...') and so forth, and then run to the nearest computer and start an argument about rigpa. To that extent it certainly is a game.
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It's an excellent point that anything described as an 'experience' must contain a degree of subject/object separation and so is not the 'true thing' if I may put it that way. But it is also true to say that the dawning of a new awareness of rigpa must present in the first place as an experience.
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I salute Tibetan Ice's honesty, openness and to a certain extent courage in talking directly about his own experiences - because it is almost bound to provoke denial from others. I'm not saying I share his experiences or that I find them a convincing description of Rigpa - but I do think that we each approach the Natural State from our own perspective and the experiences we have along the way are (mostly) personal.
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He has a very large heart.
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Rigpa is the Tibetan equivalent to Vidhya which means knowledge as the opposite of avidhya = ignorance (the first of the twelve steps of dependent origination) - so it cutting the root of samsara
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Nice lecture. That's what compassion is ... understanding. Compassion is not an emotion agreed. But the question remains the same.
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Leave off the personal attacks - we're discussing Dzogchen.
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I hope they won't be as shiny as that bloody GIF in your signature.
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Marblehead has left the building.
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This is all I have to say: Why can't you see What you're doing to me When you don't believe a word I say? We can't go on together With suspicious minds And we can't build our dreams On suspicious minds. Aha. Aha.
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If compassion arises from the natural state then why would you not be compassionate?
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Ultimate bodhicitta = emptiness Relative bodhicitta = compassion. Funnily enough your last point is exactly the same point made by Ch'an teachers when arguing against the gradualist path - which is one of the reasons I mentioned Zen several post above.
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No I am not practicing Zen. I 'practice' mahamudra (also a little of Sakya teachings Lamdre) but mostly and principally Karma Kagyu. Self awareness is not a term I have heard used in the context of meditation - except perhaps in a casual sort of sense but certainly not as a goal as of course the whole point of emptiness is the absence of self in all phenomena. The focus is on the union of emptiness and luminosity/appearance.
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What's that song -- how long has this been going on ....
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That I think is a completely different point. But I suspect you share the focus on Rainbow Body that other's have demonstrated.
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I have been washed clean of all sin as must be obvious to all.
