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There isn't any real separation between jing, qi and shen and so any energy interaction is liable to produce mental and emotional reactions. This really is why people who start by trying to conserve energy as if it's like gasolene get into trouble. The three are a spectrum. People are attracted to energy work because they see quick results ... but without cultivating yourself in terms of ethics and conduct and also in terms of understanding and wisdom ... it's like trying to fix an old TV by increasing the voltage supply.

He was also a Neo-Daoist with Legalist leaning ... strictly Xuanxue.

No, the root text of the Zhouyi is older than that. The Ten Wings commentaries which where later added to form the Yijing are Confucian.

Its in the Xici or Great Treatise commentary to the I Ching: https://books.google.pt/books?id=F06FKmKKIXwC&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=xici+gua+attributed+to+fu+xi&source=bl&ots=E6eDN--UkS&sig=c5naeus2NTsTOhclTkOSShbwvHo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cqCWVfiIGczlUrbOuYAO&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=xici%20gua%20attributed%20to%20fu%20xi&f=false

Not much evidence for anything prior to the Xia dyn. so maybe fall back on legend - usually contain elements of historical fact.

The text of the Zhouyi may be ... or even the founding of the Zhou dynasty (1046BC) but the Gua themselves attributed to Fu Xi predate this by a long way.

You wait ages for a bus and then two come along at once.

No sex then.

You set your house on fire again?

Consent is not necessary in the library of the Uber-mind.

Australians do humour better than ... Tasmanians.

Mostly UK but also germany and US http://www.dechen.org/

I'm all for spontaneous acts of generosity ...

I've come across this correlation of the wuxing to the young and old yin/yang lines: Old Yang = fire Old Yin = water young yang = wood young yin = metal ... and balance/centre = earth.

I know it sounds boring but I would advocate reading as much as possible on every subject and practice you are interested in ...until you have got the gist of it or deeper if it really resonates. BTW Gatito I am reading Ramakrishna Puligandla's Jnana-Yoga 'the Way of Knowledge'.

I'm exploring links between the I ching and Nei Dan ... so will probably stick to Chinese version.

that was the idea. gives you a taste of the whole book I guess.

Try google books version: https://books.google.pt/books?id=YfQYBQAAQBAJ&pg=PR4&lpg=PR4&dq=Unearthing+the+Changes:+Recently+Discovered+Manuscripts+of+the+Yi+Jing+and+Related+Texts&source=bl&ots=K3oQDd_q-h&sig=lmw6LeFpDqXIA4tuKJvV6bSWEgk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=78GRVaDhHImqU_ynmuAF&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Unearthing%20the%20Changes%3A%20Recently%20Discovered%20Manuscripts%20of%20the%20Yi%20Jing%20and%20Related%20Texts&f=false I've read the first book (which is excellent) - but not the second which also looks good.

many on here seem to be saying that ethics are just a concept and so on. I think this misses the point. If you do any kind of cultivation then ethics are part of that. You can't for instance work with energy successfully unless you have personal integrity. Similarly you can't conserve energy unless you renounce worldly values. It's all part of one process ultimately. If you lie then you set up inner contradictions which disrupt your subtle body (I'm not talking about white lies to be nice to someone but lies aimed at personal gain). No one is perfect and sooner or later you make mistakes and fortunately most systems have ways of repairing them.

I have been reading Wagner on Wang Bi’s craft of a Chinese commentator and have been thinking about Wang Bi’s famous conversation with Pei Hui where he was asked why Confucius never talked of the Dark (the mysterious origin or non-being) while Lao constantly did so. Wang Bi’s reply was that the Sage (i.e..e Confucius ) embodied nothingness and so knew that it was inexpressible so said nothing, while Laozi embodied being (you) and so talked constantly about nothingness - constantly because whatever he said always fell short. My first reaction to this was huh! What is he saying? The albeit very youthful, leading thinker of the Xuanxue places Confucius higher than Laozi! … since he implies that Confucius the great Sage completely understood the mysterious while Lao was still struggling to express it. But then it began to dawn on me what a brilliant answer this had been. Brilliant politically as well as philosophically. Wang Bi studied not just the Analects, the Laozi , Zhuangzi, but also of course the Zhouyi (on which he wrote an extensive commentary) and also several other classic texts. His view was that the Laozi was written by a historical person, a single author, and had a coherent narrative - not just a collection of aphorisms. his view of the Zhouyi was that it was the product of succession of Sages. In fact he regarded the Zhouyi as a direct product of the wisdom of those sages and through the ‘sitting and forgetting’ process of ‘meaning and principle’ analysis it is possible penetrate that wisdom. He regarded the Ten Wings as integral as Confucius was the last of the line of sages who commented on the Changes. What marks out the I Ching Sages starting with Fu Xi is not just wisdom but also its application. Each of the Sages is credited with inventing or implementing a change as a result of their gnosis. Fu Xi invented animal traps, another sage the plough, another market places and so on - so they made key contributions to human social progress. In this lineage Confucius brought in the Ru, the way of social harmony and the cultivation of benevolence. To do this, if rightly placed in the lineage of the Zhouyi Sages he must have penetrated to the nature and origin of Yi and thus to Wu. He must have embodied Wu. Wang Bi was critical of the Ru scholars despite this because he thought that they contrived meaning from the Old Texts by superimposition. While he himself allowed the text to speak directly and used the text itself as his reference point. He was similarly critical of the Legalists and Naming school and so on. So the Confucius he was praising was not necessarily the deified object of the Ru, but the Confucius who was the last of the Yi Sages. So the superior status given to Confucius was about his role as a Sage in giving to humanity the gift of how to live peaceably. Laozi no matter how great did not have this status. What can also be said about this is that in Laozi’s own words paraphrased, this is not about putting yourself to the fore. I imagine that neither he nor Zhuangzi gave a fig for being a Yi Sage. This was not what they were about at all. And so Wang Bi’s distinction or the status it might imply would mean nothing to them and perhaps should mean nothing to us. In saying Mr. Lao embodied being (you) and thus spoke of non-being even though his words fell short … is nothing other than confirming the first chapter of the DaoDeJing. We know words are inadequate but we are still going to talk. Because … because why not? Just some thoughts.

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Good luck.

Its so dull where you live, doesn't anything unusual ever happen?