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Ok but both Richard John Lynn and Huang translate Dui as Lake.

I for one find Icedude to be an excellent conversationalist, frankly expressing views not tricky at all. We need to be big enough to embrace views different to our own, don't we?

Now we have got to Dui ...I have always seen this expressed as a mountain lake ... is marsh a better translation ... and why? BTW it would be helpful to give a transliteration of the names of the trigrams.

I enjoy what you write ... and I just join in in my own little way ... I find humour jolly and refreshing. Sorry if you don't like it. Not intended to offend in any way.

Unfortunately correct.

I think soft or yielding is better than flaccid.

What you are giving away telephone directories.

Oddly I came across her in an article in the Guardian Newspaper and I thought some TBs would appreciate.

I don't much like your yin definition ... flaccid means to hang limply ... the earth does not hang limply ... it might be soft and receptive ... also indented is a bit strange ... do you mean malleable or something like that?

I'm going to carry on till you ask me to stop

That's a nice analogy. I would say when he was doing normal dreaming he was more ignorant than when lucid.

No I was answering your original question which was "What is the primary factor in determining whether one's experience is conditioned by frustration or by joyful equanimity?" I read somewhere (I think it was John Peacock) that avidya means not only ignorance but with a sense of wilful not wanting to know. So you could add stubbornness and a kind of aversion to seeing truth and that would fit in with my thoughts on ignorance. It's the first step in Dependent origination which is the condition for samsara ... the very essence of frustration I think. I agree basically with what you are saying about the vajrayana approach.

Reality as seen through the eyes of a typical TaoBum: ... sorry but its a FACT.

Yes. I know my comment was superfluous ... I was just feeling lonely and wanted to join the conversation so I could pretend to have friends.

I thought we were having a link/quotes ban on this thread By ignorance I mean the ignorance of the true nature of things ... as in avidhya ... I don't mean ignorance is the sense of not knowing what the capital of Venezuela is. If we can see the nature of things (or perhaps of the Mind) then we have no issue with good or bad motivation. So I see motivation as an aspect of attraction or aversion ... do you like/want to do this thing or do you draw back from it, if you see what I mean.

I have a few problems with this ... maybe you could expand a bit where you are coming from.

I just quoted this because I like the image. Actually I think there would be a huge queue in front of the Buddha just because people would want to look at him and give him their cash ... never mind the burgers and fires. "Om ... how can I help you?" "BuddhaMac with fries and coffee to go." "Can I explain the Four Noble Truths while you wait for your order?" ".....er .... no thanks but I'll have some ketchup please." "Have a nice incarnation!"

I think I might have been eating too much sugar with food additives

Also dynamic IPs.

No MAC version?

Go on give us a clue.

I didn't have you down as a the voice of reason but there you are.

I have no time for all that I'm too busy reading about some guy who wants a diploma.

Ah but from where and how does one derive motivation?

I specialise in ignorance.