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My world stood still.

I agree that the OP is too long - better to post a link and pick out the paragraph or two which supports what you want to say if you wish to have a discussion. Just to add to Starjumper - there is certainly no creator god in Buddhism - some forms of Buddhism have 'deities' which are aspects of the dharmakaya - and Buddhist views do accept the existence of non-Buddhist gods but say they are not to be worshiped ... or at least doing so will not lead to liberation. I think that most cultivators in all systems either do not del with a supreme creator or have a sophisticated view of what that is which is a long way from the ordinary view.

If she follows me she takes her chances.

I look at it this way. I'm not a saint but i'm not a devil either. As a human being I am full of good intentions and bad intentions. I don't pretend to be perfect. So if I saw a frail old woman trying to cross a busy road to reflect my own nature honestly I'd help her half way across.

I like the word sin.

25) Jesus said, "Love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye." 26) Jesus said, "You see the mote in your brothers eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. When you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye." One of my teachers used to say "all criticism is self criticism" in that whatever upsets you about some one else applies to you also. At first this may be hard to understand or accept but if you look clearly at the characteristics that you object to in others you find that you possess them also. If you didn't then you would be indifferent to their faults. You might see them but they wouldn't bother you. Again this is true because we are all aspects of and partake in the light-field all parts of which reflect the whole (and so on).

Probably a clumsy phrase in itself. A being of light - i.e no longer based or established in the phys bod but a being composed of light and the conceptual essences therein.

These two go together I think.

Yes. I think this sharing is the basis for a relationship with others and the world based on love. Becoming a light based being (if I can put it like that ) is a significant part of the work.

When I read the title ´Fuck Karma´ I thought it was going to be about how if you have sex with some one it rubs off on you. Perhaps I´ll rephrase that. Then again maybe not.

What kind of pizza for good King Wenceslas? Deep pan, crisp and even.

The mother of all subs.

me too.

Ahem! Excuse me one bitty bit ... those threads such as Gospel of Thomas and so on are there in Hermetic because they are Christian esoteric or Christian Mysticism. I see a distinction between this subject and general Xstianity. We kept them there so as not to disturb you Taoist strange people with your semen retaining ways. Seriously there is a branch of Kabbalah and so on which is Christian (eg. Pico dela Mirondela) which I think is legit on here. So boo no to a separate Christian sub forum.

Copy that.

Good point. I withdraw.

I'll PM you.

Public and Pit. Surely they are both public. I think the main version should be thought of as staying put ... so I would advocate Sit and Spit. I know its academic but I enjoy thinking about pointless things.

... just had a power cut for a couple of hours so I think this is now appropriate

P'raps you are right ... but that opens up a whole new debate I think.

Hmmm I see what you mean and you may well be right but if they are different levels then can they also be one???

I am thinking this way ... I agree about the idea all are not ready ... in fact it is quite rare to be ready ... 1/1000 or 2/10,000 ... and its interesting that mathematically that doesn't work ... as it should 1/1000 and 10/10,000 of course but I feel this is just a way of saying 'rare and exceedingly rare' ... like the 10,000 things of Taoism it just means 'a lot', 'many' or even 'all'. And the non-maths of it is saying just cos I say 1/1000 doesn't mean its proportionate ... you are ready or you're not and there is no way to calculate this ..... This is also re-emphasised in the 'standing as a single one' ... I think this means that you stand uniquely as your self ready or no. I don't think its saying all ready people are the same (except in their readiness of course) but that perhaps you are ready in your own particular way ... and there is no way of accounting for what that might be. Each persons path is their own even if they may start from the same place and lead to the same place. Something like that

yup ..... (I think) ....

Isn't it possible to copy the whole of a thread to the Pit and then delete the offending posts from the original and mark one Pit Version and the other Pure Version?

This is an excellent suggestion - and I think may be easier for the mod team.