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The initiation itself and the sadhana text contain the correct instructions for vsualization and so on ... the correct pronunciation is that which the lama uses ... nothing to do with precise sanskrit ... otherwise no Tibetan initiations would work because of peme for padme .. soha for svaha and so on. In Buddhist initiations the deity is an aspect of buddha-nature (or dharma-kaya) and the initiation, although it feels like an energy transmission, is actually more like the lama tuning into this aspect which creates a resonance in you because you also have that same nature even though you are not aware of it. It is as if the lama is pointing out to you something you have forgotten about. The degree to which you recognise this depends on how close you are to it ... so some initiations don't feel like much at the time but later work themselves out. When you do the sadhana you are tuning back into this same state. It is possible to do all this without an initiation ... in fact in the ngondro this is what you do ... from your own effort you invoke the deity (eg. vajrasattva) without an empowerment (though you would get the 'lung' for the text.) But for most sadhanas an empowerment is needed/better ... as you may just be tuning into your own delusions rather than an aspect of reality if you don't know what you are doing or are unable to recognise a legitimate state. The secrecy has nothing to do with secret societies or mind control etc. It is because the communion of states in the empowerment is intimate and needs to be preserved with integrity for it to work properly. What is happening in the initiation is happening at different levels ... including the mundane ... certain things are said and done .. gestures and so on ... if you then blab about all this then it reduces it to simply a mundane event ... because you can't communicate what is happening at a supra-mundane level ... so you keep schtum this is the rule.

Ah I see you americans are still rearranging the deck chairs as the ship goes down.

That's nice ... better than that chap on a horse anyway.

Please! These are the eternal questions ... they are beyond thread restrictions ...

RU a filistine?

I find blockages usually have emotional content so clearing them changes you and in changing you begin to see things differently and get more skills and ability. I would say moral or ethical practice goes hand in hand ... though I suppose you could ignore that and just do the energy work ... but you might get confused at certain stages. We're unique individuals but of the same mould I guess.

Kandinsky ... and if anyone says modern art is rubbish ... bollocks to you.

I win with Nehab-kau (uniter of kas) who as a snake feeds the eye of horus to a man with a duck on his head. they both have erections. beat that.

I would like a psychiatric assessment of this ... they can tell a lot from ink blots I hear.

Hey I can do that in 30 mins except what was supposed to be a bed turns out to be a wardrobe. Have people considered that while the goals of different paths might be the same they are differently conceived. For instance the different types of Buddhism see the goal differently but that does not make Buddhahood different.

A chocolate donut ... excellent ... yum.

I thought that plinky plonky music was unpleasant.

Many hands make light work (?)

Ok I didn't mean to pry I was just interested . Sounds like Chinese mahayana. Good luck with it ... hope it brings you much peace and happiness.

As far as I know the fundamentalism Christian right wing hate islam, Islam hates America (and the west), Muslims hate Zionist and visa versa ... so where is the Abrahamic pact?

To cast light on? Who is the guru? what school of buddhism?

depends where you live I guess ... good luck to her... though I hope she sees the Buddha as more than an ornament ...

OK ... is this a lucrative line of business?

Why?

I agree ....

Which part of my anatomy will they suspend me by?

I am willing to talk in a general way about the path and what certain things mean and so on ... but not about profound personal experiences. To dare, to know, to will, to keep silent.

Well as I said it was the first ritual magic I ever practiced and it was an invocation of elementals and it worked. I was quite surprised because although I had done some meditation up till then ... nothing much ... I went on to do some work with the Egyptian gods Anubis and Set and that worked too ... I am not bound by oaths of secrecy but I don't want to discuss what happened on an open forum.

FFS more of this shit.