Apech

Go and see a doctor first make sure there is nothing physically wrong. What practice are you doing and why do you think this pain is related?

Hello, I have the power to do this! Are you actually going to use it - cos I notice some naughty people asked for one and then never used it. They go to the bottom of the class and may have detention. So tell me j.fachao are you ready to go ... I mean in the ppf sense???

It is an odd and very unpleasant aspect of human nature that when people see what they perceive as weakness in another being, rather than try to help they attack, ridicule and insult. This is universally true and is not anything specific about you or the condition you find yourself in. That's the first thing to realise. Then you should recognise that although we are in effect individuals we are born into particular energy configurations. That is our environment as children and early life impact on us and give us a feeling tone and memories which tend to create a load of baggage which we carry around. So its important to remind yourself that you are not this collection of thoughts and feelings ... they are something associated with you but they are not you. You need to think that you are entitled to self fulfilment. You are entitled to seek joy and energy. So you need to regroup and if you can find a practice that boosts your personal power. Then you need to look at your experiences as if you posited them yourself in order to learn something ... and try to see what that thing(s) is/are. Sorry to cut short but got to go now.

The sun never set.

I think that different religions are actually (partly) codified ancient wisdom ... when I say ancient I mean well beyond recorded history say 150,000 to 200,000 years old. The differences reflect the way the same knowledge was expressed in different places, terrains, social conditions and so on. So after the last ice age maybe 10 - 12,000 years ago mankind started to settle and move to arable farming in fixed locales instead of hunter gatherer nomadic style ... then maybe 6,000 years ago we start to get the beginnings of recorded 'civilisation' and then history as we know it from 3000 BC (roughly) and then the beginning of extant religions maybe 2000 - 1000 bc eg. Vedic in India and Shamanistic Taoism in China and so on. Then a lot happening about 300 - 500 BC (Buddha, LZ, Greek pre-socratics like Heraclitus) ... then of course JC ... well you know the rest. Point being ... for over 100,000 years mankind was naturally spiritual along shamanistic lines and had 'easy' access to spirit world and so on. This access got less and less and more exclusive to particular people and grous as time went on ... and techniques to regain what was once natural had to be developed e.g. yoga, meditation, shaman using drugs, chanting, etc. etc.

I think you proved my point. English is much to lazy to make such a meal of one word. Yes I think I agree. The history of Europe is the history of attempts to rebuild the Roman empire ... including the dreaded European Union ... see the price we (and the Greeks) are paying for that conceit? Interestingly all the stuff that the Romans are famous for, technology and wotnot they stole from the Greeks, the Egyptians, the Phoenicians and so on. In fact lets have a Phoenician empire recreated ... that would be something to behold. Carthage rebuilt.

The usual date for the founding of the library is under Ptolemy Soter around 290 BC. Some say the original library was burned down by Julius Cesar in about 48 AD but that is not certain and in any case at least part of the collection was retained at the Serapeum. This was prob destroyed around the end of the Roman Empire about 400 AD and probably by Christians (of course). So yes Mohammed and Jesus came after the library but I think Buddha and Loa Tzu before I think. The Arabs did preserve a lot of Greek writing and this was then translated into Latin after the crusades which brought about the Renaissance. So a big thank you to the Muslims. ta.

Not completely true. Some codified information is necessarily so because of the kinds of ideas which are expressed. for instance the bagua could be said to be a certain kind of code ... but not one that is intended to hide knowledge but to present in a way which has to be earned by working on the concepts involved, realisation and application through which real understanding can arise. This as distinct from say the enigma code in WWII or the encryption of files on computers which is as you say deliberately intended to conceal information. There is a strong theory that English evolved in Britain through trade between Celtic Latin speakers, Saxons and other Germanic tribes and the viking/norsemen ... as a lingua franca specifically for trade ... this in someways shows why it is so strong internationally now ... because it has a very adaptive lexis and non-prescriptive syntax and grammar. Compare for instance with French where they regularly control imported words and try to protect its purity ... this makes French more closed off than English and less easy to speak in a street style ... which is what you need for a lot of trade/business. Latin of course is no longer a lingua franca ... this was only the case because of the Catholic Church and its hold on education and hearts and minds. The Hermetic tradition has always used Latin, Greek and Hebrew ... the older and perhaps source language Ancient Egyptian being completely dead at the fall of the Roman Empire. Christianity, god bless it, wiped out most of our heritage ... But even by the time this gentleman was writing about penguins (1911) it was still the case that the educated classes would have been fluent in Latin and Greek and these would have been the academic lingua franca. He was still of the opinion, presumably, that knowledge was for the elite because other people, not properly trained could not be trusted with it. I don't think this kind of thinking died out until after two world wars, especially the first which wiped out a generation of these kinds of people and exposed the aristocracy as being fallible.

Because Latin and to a certain extent Greek was the lingua franca in Europe where science was emerging. And actually English has the capacity to absorb words from different language bases particularly Latin and Germanic roots. As in moon and lunar. We don't talk about moon eclipses but we do talk about lunar eclipses. In medical science we talk about larynx and pharynx and not throat and voice box. Ok this might exclude some people who do not understand how these terms are applied but it allows people who need to be to be more precise. The fact is that knowledge did spread through the use of Latin and in a way which eliminated the need to translate continuously from French to German to English to Spanish and so on. Also remember there were many regional languages which are now truly dead. For a long time a minority of people living in France actually spoke what we would now recognise as French. The idea that someone using precise and yet not necessarily commonly understood terms is doing so to intimidate and exclude people is to attribute a motivation held only by a few on the many.

clinging to our own or touching someone else's could be arrested.

I fear that if I tried to point you towards them it would be like being at the north pole and the needle would spin or hang meaninglessly in a random direction. Its up to you to start your own topics and post what you want (please no racism or porn etc ) more or less. You can delete other people's posts or keep them as you wish. You can post nothing in a kind of zen statement of emptiness if you like. The technical handbook is so large that if you want to have a copy I will have to arrange for three articulated lorries to deliver it and a team of 16 roadies to unload into your front yard. yes you guessed it there is no technical handbook. If you want to ask a specific question I will try to answer for you. Enjoy little cat.

Yep done it.

Those three paradigms are a complete mish-mash of different ideas. Your main point seems reasonable, that humanity is 'progressing' over time but the sites you linked to are just full of unsubstantiated and rather strange assumptions. Also in the ancient world and many extant traditions we are not progressing but either fallen from grace. Why do we have to believe in beings living inside the earth who are more advanced? By the way Amenti is just Ancient Egyptian for 'West' or 'hidden' ... because the sun becomes hidden when it sets in the west.

@TM Well thanks in return for your view. I think that this idea of treating reality (in the life sciences) as dead comes from the same scientific paradigm which emerged in the late 17 Century. That is reality is an object which can be dissected, broken down into parts and therefore understood. Hence the tendency to kill things to understand them. What they are looking at of course is the gross precipitation of higher and more subtle life functions which they cannot detect. The use of ancient ... what you call dead languages is not necessarily such a bad thing. For large periods of history Latin was the lingua franca of the intelligentia and a such allowed people from different countries to converse ... and thus promoted learning. Ancient Greek was interestingly enough the lingua franca of the Roman Empire and also the language through which the philosophy and science of the ancient world has come down to us (in the West). No bad thing in my view. In the truly ancient world of course learning was the province of the priesthoods. Mathematics, geometry, architecture, medecine and so on were linked to a spiritual view. This view was preserved in subjects like alchemy (which even the likes Newton studied) and did not separate the spiritual from the empirical. Empiricism does have a virtue though in that it has to try to explain facts. As much a scientific dogma may think it has the 'answer' always in every discipline, sooner or later, actual detectable physical effects undermine the standard model. By recording actual observable facts the scientist is actually able to move forward. For instance the penguin man saw homosexual behaviour at a time when such things were both illegal and socially unacceptable in human society ... despite being widely practiced. Sooner or later this forces a reassessment of homosexuality as un-natural or whatever. So I think there is something to be said for pragmatic empiricism as distinct to received and untested ideas.

Well since you ask I would say that the modern scientific paradigm emerged in the mid 17 century to the beginning of the 18th. This is when for instance Alchemy and Chemistry first became separate disciplines. I think your assessment is a little harsh. I think there are scientist who are genuinely interested in the natural world and try to understand it (within the limits of the paradigm). I think the funny thing about the article is that the scientist in 1911 projected his values onto the penguins. But he did observe and record presumably accurately and those bits of information can be used to increase understanding despite the fact that he did not himself understand. I think it was Marx who said society and the zeitgeist project the philosophy for the time ... so the prevalent ideas which gain general acceptance at different periods reflect the way in which people were living. So for instance a feudal society would propagate very different philosophies to democratic one and so on. The scientist wrote about the activities of the penguins in Greek so that only educated people - which presumably means people sufficiently ok with ideas - could understand ... it was his judgement that others (i.e. the proles) would react strangely to the discoveries he had made. If it was discovered today I think this would not apply which is why it appeared in a mainstream newspaper. So the commentary or subtext of the article was that today we would not necessarily jump to the conclusion that the penguin activity was depraved and so on. I do not share your view of science which seems entirely negative. Although I would naturally gravitate to Blake rather than Newton ... I still think that the insight of the application of mathematics to things such as the laws of motion and gravity is a significant and helpful breakthrough for mankind. I don't understand the Simpson quote at all ... I have no idea what you are saying there.

Er did you guys read the article it was about a scientist from 1911 who wrote this stuff up in Greek so the hoi poloi could not read it. That was the funny part ... i.e. the reflection on humans.

You could try this:

Ok we can take in the view and do some window shopping on the way .

I like the yellow ones.

Based on a totally superficial and quick look at some of his Youtube vids I would say Michael Roach is very gifted man ... and probably a good man if maybe a little innocent. I think sometimes people push themselves too hard to get power/enlightenment and it distorts them badly. Speaking as a plodder myself ... I am glad I am that way ... or at least I was caused to be that way by one of my teachers. He said 'no urgency' ... apply yourself with all the energy you can but do not rush. He also said 'to want means to lack' ... so if you really want power you lack power ... if you really want enlightenment then you lack it. Not sure I've done justice to this insight but maybe you see what he meant by this. In fact he used to say that if you look around at those who obviously want real power they will never get it ...hmmm

Myth of eight hour sleep Hmmm interesting .....

Its one thing to be gifted intelligent and well taught in a school of practice and another to be genuinely wise and enlightened.

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Ah right ... that's how Egyptian obelisks are suppose to be ... with the sun on the point. All goes back to the creation myth. A mound or stone called the Benben emerges from the infinite waters of the void (called the Nun) and as it does so the sun rises over it. It is a recreation of the zep tawy - first time - the moment when the perceived world comes into existence ... as in 'let there be light'. the sun is Ra of course. All pyramids and temple in Egypt were recreations of this scene.

Weird but strangely fascinating read the comments on this blog: Blog page ... ?