Apech

Seconded.

Its much better when you explain where you are coming from. More text from you and less quotes would improve your message which is not always being understood. I don't know about other people but I don't have time to watch all those youtube links. Yes I get that. But nothing is proved there is just a big question. The thing is that there is a lot of evidence to support the standard dispersion theory and there is some evidence which is very difficult to fit into it. Someone needs to demonstrate how a pre-existing lost civilization can be a better fit to all the evidence not just some of it. I find it very frustrating that the alternative history researchers do not do this ... i.e. posit an alternative and yet scientifically based model.

I4L, Can I suggest something? Less is more. You post some quite interesting stuff (mixed with some not so interesting (to me at least)). Why don't you try to summarize the point you are making in the first post and then add the links and so on which you feel justify your view? For instance the two vids which you say "Genetic evidence of how humans migrated in prehistory is consistent with the existence of prehistoric civllization-" ... do no such thing. The first points out that the presence of haplo-group X in plains indians does not fit with dispersion theory but the second repeats the dispersion theory. The mitochondrial DNA does throw up an interesting problem as to how it got from the middle east to the US. From that theories can be developed which may include a pre-existing lost civilization. If you had just posted this it would have been an interesting point for debate but these great long posts of yours are just overwhelming really and also seem to repeat a lot. A.

Try his publisher and/or literary agent .. they may be willing to pass messages on. If you demonstrate genuine interest in his work and have pertinent questions he would have to have armor plating not to want to respond.

Aaron, I think you will need to PM Sean as he is the only one who can set up or delete the permissions for modding.

Oh right! ha ha 8. The noble truths for our times can not be spoken (or written). 9+. Please refer to No.8.

Why are there only 7 of the '10 Noble Truths' ?

OK maybe I'm retarded and illiterate ... just to help me then can someone explain how you would divide humanity into races and what would be the defining characteristics of those races? A list would help.

I would like to move this to Off Topic because its not really Taoist Discussion. Any objections????

Ah! Mal! We need you.

I never forget my oath as a moderator ...

His problem is that he is you.

Yes please it's very gooey in here. Thanks.

*** Moderator Message *** User more_ple_guy has been banned for OP. *** Mod Message Ends ***

I'm over here. Where are you?

I think that's an interesting question K but I can guarantee that you won't get a straight answer. From my checks MPG is right about the identity of this person and so since he is already banned for this I am going to re-ban him. So its no_more_pie_guy now.

Good question. From a quick look round I think you have to ask the Mod Team to do it. Is there a Topic Title you want changing? Just post it here and I'll do it for you.

Ok I see there is some discomfort with this mod action but please remember the following from the Mod Guidelines: I am not accusing I4L of being a racist I am saying that the content he posted is discriminatory. I confess that racism is something I personally hate. I've lived and worked in some places where there was a lot of racism in schools and society generally. One thing that supports racism is stereotypes and received attitudes about what people are like which are real barriers to people actually living along side each other and getting on. And its not about middle-class sensibilities or whatever its about real hate and violence, bullying and so on perpetrated against the 'different' minority. Its not political correctness to combat something that is so real and nasty. I suppose it was natural for people in the 19th an dearly 20th century to examine the people of the world in terms what they assumed were intrinsic differences such as skin color and so on ... but as far as I am concerned science since then has demonstrated that we are all homo sapiens and essentially the same as humans (despite cultural differences). Why anyone would want to go back to these old ways of seeing things is beyond me. This includes when we are looking at alternative views on history I don't see why race is thought important. For instance I am personally quite convinced by the idea that there was a pre-ice age civilization ... Atlantis or whatever ... but given this doesn't that mean we are all Atlanteans???? Anyway ... the thread is still here in the Pit and you can carry on with it if you wish. I have no intention of Pitting all of I4L's threads and I have always in the past defended his right to post his subject matter (in the face of quite a lot of strong requests to do otherwise).

*** Moderation Message *** I am personally uncomfortable with having a thread on TTBs which appears to support a racist theory about the development of mankind. I would prefer to delete this thread entirely but as a moderator I have to follow some rules. In the light of the request above I am going to move this thread to the Pit. Further moderation action may follow once this issue has been discussed by the moderation team. Apech for Mod Team *** Mod Message Ends ****

Root races? What are they? Why is the white man always in the middle ... and why does he have a beard? Ridiculous.

I have to admit I haven't read all this ... but do we really need archaic pictures of the 'races' of human beings? Race is not accepted as a legitimate genetic description of any actual basic differences between people. Not happy with this at all.

Wang Bi commentary on this section. The last two lines mean that because of the example set by the (bad) ruler people start to take life lightly (i.e. without proper regard and respect) and behave badly ... i.e. greedy, uncaring an violent.

Why do you want to do this? Reply by PM if you want ... we probably need Sean to do this ... but even when accounts are closed we don't usually erase them.

"An egg-shaped ring of standing stones in Australia could prove to be older than Britain's Stonehenge - and it may show that ancient Aboriginal cultures had a deep understanding of the movements of the stars. Fifty metres wide and containing more than 100 basalt boulders, the site of Wurdi Youang in Victoria was noted by European settlers two centuries ago, and charted by archaeologists in 1977, but only now is its purpose being rediscovered. It is thought the site was built by the Wadda Wurrung people - the traditional inhabitants of the area. All understanding of the rocks' significance was lost, however, when traditional language and practices were banned at the beginning of the 20th Century." BBC website

Ouch my semi-buddhist hand is slapped . Please do return and comment!