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Trunk, Glad we agree - more or less. Collapsing spheres? Perhaps I meant the distinction between them ceases to be relevant (or something). i.e. think, feel, will becomes 'be'.

Hi Yoda, A short version of my thinking about Egypt/assemblage point. The Book of the Dead describes two cycles. The first cycle is about seeing, understanding and absorbing the experience of the nature of reality. The second is about 'becoming' it. Near the beginning of the second cycle is a series of Chapters or Spells dealing with what are called 'transformations'. These start with Ch. 76 " Spell for being transformed into any shape one may wish to take." This is followed by a series of being transformed into various forms such as a gold falcon, a divine falcon ... a lotus, a swallow and so on. The word used for transformation is 'kheperu' a word derived from the verb 'kheper' which means 'come into being', 'change', 'occur or happen' and 'bring about' and so on. This creative transformational process is personified in the god Khepera, the scarab beetle of the morning sun. Interestingly this word is also used when talking about the heart - a sacred scarab was placed on the chest of the mummy to protect the heart, and in Ch. 30b of the BoD. it says "O my heart of my mother, O my heart of my mother, O my heart of my changing forms (kheperu)." So there is a clear link between the heart and this transformational process of changing forms. This reminded me of the Castaneda books where Don Juan changes into a crow and CC into a cayote. I recalled that this was explained in later books as being about a shift in the assemblage point ... e.g. from the strands of awareness of a human to those of a crow. I saw a connection. To the Egyptian the heart was the centre of the mind, will and character. It was involved in a transformational process at a key stage in the BoD reminiscent of shamanistic shape shifting. From this I began to wonder if I cold see anything similar in Daoism. So far the results are inconclusive but I still have hope Thnx to everyone for listening and responding. And hope there is more to be said on this important subject. Hi Cheya, No I don't know that book but I have the Art of Dreaming which I will look up. Thanks.

OK - its does say "This essay is a current work-in-progress; it'll be filling out over several weeks." - so I was encouraging you to do this, but anyway: "Find the still place in the deep-center of each of the three centers (power, love, wisdom). Align those still places. That alignment opens the central vessel." What I take from this is that each of the Tan Diens (power - lower, heart - love, upper-wisdom) has at its heart a still centre through which they are linked. This link is the central channel or middle pillar - working with this is about working directly with reality (that is the union of emptiness and appearance, voidity and luminosity or however you express it.) Working in this way means resting in the 'now' in what the Egyptians called 'hotep' (sorry but I don't know the term from other systems). In a way you could say the three centres collapse into each other (this is a way of talking of course). "Find the light in the deep-center of each of the three centers. Allow each center's light to transform and absorb its own surrounding substance and energies into its deep-center, promoting each center's stability as itself." The light in each centre is the resident awareness (or primary awareness) which is an attribute of absolute power (reality), naturally arising from its presence, unconstructed and pure. Each centre has around it resonating energies, physical, emotional and so on which constitiute the kind of energy fabric of the being. The centre's light self-emanating absorbs, or rather acknowledges these as children of its own light and therefore links and binds them into a coherent structure which is able to establish its own stability - that is it becomes a kind of self harmonizing whole. More later.

I just googled Taisha Abelar and it said on Wiki: "Taisha Abelar, born Maryann Simko, is an American author and anthropologist who was a close associate of Carlos Castaneda. She disappeared shortly after Castaneda's death in 1998." Is there any explanation as to where she has been for the last 10 years?

Explains why my hair keeps standing on end.

I read Amy Wallace's book and found it very gossipy and a little bit spiteful. To be honest an ex-lover is never going to be a big fan. It seems to me that CC was surrounded by scary women at the end of this life and I have seen on youtube an interview with the three cagoules (or whatever they call themselves) and I find transegrity (?) completely unconvincing. Too tense, too overtly dramatic and would not stand up against any half decent Qi Gong practice. For me CC's books are very inspiring and no 'fraud' could do that, in that way. They are full of powerful ideas which stand up to my scrutiny (and I am very hard to please!). I don't think he was a genius - I think he encountered one or possibly more than one genuine practitioners and enough rubbed off on him to write the books - but when left to his own devices it all went pear shaped - which is basically what the books describe as the 'three pronged nagual'. So in that sense I would take the books at face value - up to and not including 'Magical Passes'.

You are right they don't overlap and I am not trying to mix systems - I am completely against that idea. That is my main criticism of most people who write about Egypt and you will see from what I have written on here that I keep within the Egyptian system when talking about it. BUT you can gain understanding in one system which helps in the other. Also when dealing with fundamentals such as voidity and so on these are in all systems. Every system is developed in a certain time, place, terrain and from a particular history of experience which makes it unique in that expression BUT because it is dealing with underlying reality if properly understood reveals the same nature of reality and so on. It appears that the assemblage point is a useful principle in the work that I am doing so I want to compare and contrast how other systems talk about it. I would be very surprised if there is nothing in Daoism which deals with this - but maybe I'm wrong. Trunk, I like this: core centre care to expand on it as promised

I use other systems to enhance my own work (which involves interpreting Ancient Egyptian religion - I can explain how this fits in if you wish). I want to make sure I have a correct understanding of the assemblage point and was originally looking to see if the Daoist system had anything equivalent.

Thanks for the replies so far and I would like to continue the discussion because its an important subject IMO. Like many of the ideas from CC's books the assemblage point seems to have spawned a small industry of practitioners - alternative healers who heal by moving the point when it becomes displaced (or stuck). Just google it if you want to see. They seem to place the point in the mid-chest where the heart chakra would be and not behind the right shoulder - which is the point that DJ used to strike to shift CC's attention. I was struck by this diagram: Whether or not CC's books are 'fact' or 'fiction' does not concern me because (magical passes aside) the ideas in the books are in my view spot on. So whatever their source they are I think entirely valid. The movement of the assemblage point has various uses, dreaming, stalking and the attendant shifts in awareness. When ever we work, e.g. with Chi we are moving it slightly - more extreme movement will result in quite different states of consciousness. But ultimately understanding it and how it works must be a key to liberation. I am puzzled though why its hard to provide a direct link to Daoist systems - maybe its something to do with the interaction of Shen and Chi (?).

From our view at least The nature of things is void and appearance light.

Rather than asking whether visualizations are needed (since they clearly are not essential) it would be more worth while to ask what are visualizations good for. I think the answer is that they promote a certain type of mental awareness. They can be immediate and holistic. They can help with mental absorbtion. In a tantric sadhana they can be used to focus on a yiddam and allow the energy of that yiddam to pervade and so on. In terms of Chi and healing visualizations can be used to create a certain energy structure to aid health. BUT I agree you do not need to visualize to feel chi.

for Lysistrata Stopping more than just a war We had come in peace.

What happened to the October 14th UFO prediction? Nada.

Yes. In some ways when you develop increased sensitivity to Qi you realize that some of the feelings you already have are Qi anyway you just didn't recognize them as such.

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Thanks Wudangguan this is really interesting. I know you don't want to translate anything but could you at least give a clue as what the significance of the 7 stars is. Cheers.

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Make a single man? Why you just leave him honey! You're too sweet for him.

Bump. We should remember.

Please don't forget

I met this master many years ago and I have to say his presence was extraordinary. I used to have all his books of poetry and loved them. I have just discovered that he has died: Dr. Javed Nurbakhsh PS. How do you embed videos?

Thanks both of you!

Found this quote on the net: from here: working with stars

What a brilliant place - I am deeply jealous too

together outward and inward nature combine a golden moment.