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Blue flowers! What kind of wizard are you?

while being here now you could catch the next bus towards tomorrow.

As a total outsider to all this - I have no access to Kunlun in the UK (as far as I know) and have only read the website and read discussions on here - 'sinister' of course means 'left handed' and refers to the hidden side of the shield in heraldry (the other side being 'dexter' or shown - the sword wielding hand). So sinister only refers to a particular way of using energy - hidden/dark and does not mean 'evil'. So if you work 'nothing- something - nothing' as has been mentioned, then to someone on another path this might appear sinister. I would also like to make the point that actually no teacher gives you anything. What they do is point out to you the presence of energy or reality which is already there. They are allowing you to access the infinite of potential 'within' yourself which your ordinary mind or state of being obscures. All initiatory systems work in this way. Some people who perhaps have achieved greater confidence in their work and have established freer access to deeper states of being can assist others who are less sure about things. Ultimately while teachers are needed, we do things for ourselves. I think this is worth remembering when dealing with 'gurus'. Have any other Taobums got interesting waterproofs? I think this should be a theme in itself.

Practice Thanksgiving You'll have a new president end of November.

Just a thought - nothing new about porn: ****** could easily give examples from ancient india, china, japan, rome - you name it. Its always been there - it just that now its easier to find on the internet. If the human mind likes to produce it then where is the 'trap'? Like everything else its in us and not in the porn.

One of my teachers said that because the physical body is 'of the earth' then it was better to let it return to the earth. That is be buried. He said that our bodies would then be 'recycled' by nature. Of course he believed that we are not the body so ultimately what happens to the body after death is not the most important - more important what happens to our consciousness.

Downloaded - marvelous thanks.

you're altogether more than the sum of your parts blessed wholesomeness.

What I like most about Taobums is this feeling of a loosely knit group of individuals who are all finding out their own way for themselves. Disagreements and different opinions are ok and so is a sense of humour which brings everyone down to earth. The question about banning mostly prompted a response which did not want to see him banned at all, no matter what people thought of Li Jiong. Personally I am not a great fan of his kind of uncompromising style and I feel that, having trained for a bit under someone a little like that, while there is much to learn from someone who has put so much energy into things, behind that is quite a lot of emotion, particularly anger. It is interesting that he effectively ended up banning (or suspending) himself. Why? I would much prefer that he stay, face the questions and answer them ... preferably without the 'third rate' business. But you have to ask why he felt he could not hang around and respond more to the questions being raised. I think this reflects well on Taobums itself, not badly. It was a quite a gentle weeding process and not really that aggressive at all. I know practices like Kunlun tend to dominate occasionally but I see in Taobums a genuinely open and diverse community of genuine practitioners. To misquote George Orwell "Onebum bad, Taobums good."

Thanks! Brilliant! I opened it ok - am going to read it now.

Sunny side up with fries and ketchup please.

Clothesline clairvoyance that's my excuse for looking at your lingerie.

Want some bread and fish? Sure do, my friends are hungry, I'll take five thousand.

What was in the wine? Valpolicella? Asti? Maybe frizzante. Whatever's in it It tastes like water after Jesus has changed it.

Come home far too late! Stay out drinking with your mates! Soon a monk for sure.

So are you saying Rookie is third-rate and so was unable to benefit from your system. In which case why do you commiserate with him? Or are you saying he is not third rate - in which case why didn't he benefit and why does he want a refund?

[ ...pitter then patter Can you hear that gentle sound? Rain is calling you...] Obrigado down the rabbit hole Alice chased a big white one Late, late, late again.

Now that's what I call truth !!!!!!!!!!!!

I haven't read Penrose but obviously I should. Excellent - yes. But what would be the physiological process for detecting quantum effects and how would that relate to mitochondrial (or any other kind ) pulsing. BTW there seems to be two very similar threads - is this some kind of weird quantum effect itself?

lunatic lovers keep your foolish bonking ways - rabbits on acid.

It is - but that see thru plastic mac is inexcusable! In fact only an enlightened being would have the nerve to wear it.

He should not be banned. But maybe he could have points deducted for poor fashion sense: http://greattao.net/Album/pages/tianchi_JPG.htm I like his posts even though I disagree with him sometimes - but that's the spirit of Taobums isn't it?

I think that the essential problem is that science sees consciousness as an epiphenomenon, that is something which arises through the complex interaction of physical processes, whilst Taoism and Buddhism regard consciousness/sentience as a primary attribute of 'that which is'. Quantum mechanics gets itself tied on knots over the observer and observed problem whilst I think we would have no problem with the idea of this interaction - i.e. the wave function of the observer is part of the equation. I doubt very much if any self respecting physicist would accept that it is possible to perceive quantum effects bodily as Qi for instance. They would say that we are constantly bombarded by cosmic rays for example and we cannot feel them. If they were to accept that such a sensitivity exists then they would look for experimental evidence for a measurable interaction which our nervous system could pick up and our brain interpret. I think they would at best see any Qi based description of quantum energy and so on as metaphorical at best.

as inward webs grow my pet spider gets confused - Where are all the flies?

If you are interested in mahayana and vajrayana Buddhism you could try here: http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/index.html