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Yes ... I mean a Wednesday ? save it for the weekend surely. I think the demon thing is possibly ok. I haven't read it yet but I can see the logic of, if you like solidifying the HGA by addressing the worldly powers. It makes sense and many parallels in say the Kalachakra tantra and so on. It's the magic squares that I don't get ... and suggest that this is just ann add on from someone's grimoire. (?) i.e. not directly relevant to the main work. Although I can see that in magic you do have to test its efficacy or its could all just be subjective mind tricks. Yep ... maybe. The translation of ngondro as preliminary is a bit misleading. Perhaps 'foundation practices' might be better. They are not just something you get out of the way before the heavy lifting starts. In fact in a lot of ways they are the heavy lifting. They are a practice in themselves which doesn't really end at completion. Although I've done the 100,000 of this and that ... I still do them. The guru or lama is in some respects your actual teacher .. but equally it is your buddha nature and the dharmakaya itself. The more I think about it the more hermetic the vajrayana seems (though perhaps not as taught these days in the west at least). I have had as much teaching in dreams and direct inspiration from vajradhara as I have had from my actual teacher (who I have not seen in years).

Oops

How can it be both?

I’ve downloaded the Dehn translation (as well as the Mathers) and am reading it slowly. I used to know someone who did the six month version - although they weren’t very forthcoming about the results. I get the impression that there is an authentic core … but also quite a lot of dodgy stuff re magic squares for strange purposes. I was struck by the idea that it is a kind of western ngondro ( which ends with guru yoga which could be compared to the HGA). Interesting.

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Well certainly things change. We go through cycles which have peaks and troughs. So we change all the time. I’m not sure what ‘ my sample’ is supposed to mean. Sample of what? Evolution is not progressive - this is a common mistake - it is adaptive. There is no progressive development except variety, and selection of adaptations. It has no purpose at all except survival.

Progress is a myth.

Don’t make me facepalm you 😀

Indo-Europeans we’re very butch and manly , they didn’t wear padding and helmets to throw a little ball around a field.

Indo-European: Hi there! Chinese: Yo person with a funny hat, how are you. I.E.: Fine, fine, sorry about that bit of an invasion by the way. Ch.: That's ok, it's happened before, it'll happen again. I.E.: I feel quite assimilated now by the way. Ch.: So...what you been up to? I.E.: Well it's strange, I dropped some sticks on the floor this morning and when I looked at the pattern I saw that my heifer will bring forth a piebald calf in the three months. Ch.: Cool, sounds a bit like the ancient traditions of divination we have going back thousands of years. I.E.: Well that's nice of you but it's just a pile of yarrow stalks at the end of the day. Ch.: Well do you mind if I take your method and turn it into the most sublime and sophisticated system of divination ever created by mankind? I.E.: Not at all, knock yourself out! I'd help out but I have a burial mound to build. Ch.: Cheers then and say hi to the Sky Father for me. I.E.: Right! Catch you later Chinese guy. (sorry sometimes when I've been on DaoBums a while my mind just gets out of control).

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It's completely irrelevant to the topic but relocation of defeated enemies to remote parts of one's empire is not without precedent. The Persians did it. So there may have been some ancient 'race' mixing I suppose. But the I Ching is essentially Chinese whether or not some peoples moved from A to B in 1000BC or whatever. After all the King James Bible is at the core of the English canon - but of course the Bible comes from the Middle East ... so ... what?

Hello and welcome.

@Tommy I think you might be as enlightened or even more enlightened than most of us. Don't you though feel or sense something mysterious about our existence. When you feel or think these things don't you think it's kind of extraordinary that it's happening at all? In my moments of clarity I feel like this ... a kind of wonder about it all. Maybe you don't - not that it matters.

How strange! I will move everything except Music and Yungdrung Bon somewhere moree appropriate.