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Isnt it an epic fail when someone pushes a point? Seems like Vmarco.

It just seems not kind or sane to take the forum so seriously. We are on a computer connected to a forum over the internet. Some of the "trolls" we encounter like to get on and get people worked up. To be completely forthcomming they get off on it. So, I guess Im just concerned over the sanity of the forum. Sure we can ignore people but it just ignore's the problem which is the combative nature already present in the forum.

dopamine levels around here are getting pretty low and I am not talking myself. edit: yet it might be just because of the over all feeling

I have never understood it. Apparently obsessed fans tend to imitate people because they like the ideas. They also do it to feel important, since they feel... I am guessing insecure or inadequate? I liken it to the guy on irc in the 90s that pretended to be Jim Carrey as the "riddeler". He didnt have his own persona, wasnt creative enough to create his own. So evidently borrowed from someone else? I dont know how to feel about it. It's kind of like going to take your clinical psychology classes in college and finding out that yes there are people who are necrophiliacs. If you dont know what that word means... Dont look it up it would disturb your mind.

Yep. Now for our viewing pleasure:

We try to see our future life In the image of what we feel to be perfection Though rose-colored glasses we work and we try. Finding we only see through two eyes We cannot watch everyones actions. We see sometimes only what we wish. Sometimes we see benevolent actions. Some malevolent tendancies we dont get a chance to see. Working with the best in comraderie We seek to bring or lifes work, our goals to fruition. Finding the flaw, that humanity is not precise it slows us down. For our errors are not as easiliy corrected as they are made. Twords the barrenness and the corrupt we epoch, dragging the world's brightest and finest. Compassion came to save the masses. Though a little too late it did. The blur between the compassionate and the powerful Was not seen till it was too late. The mechanation of humanity twords the (evil) goal of power of the individual was never understood. Mandkinds heart and mind blinded by its self-created money. Traded the rest of life and light for its own green. Pain and anguish the entire race felt. It could not save anything for it feared it would be without money. It found itself with no trees, no animals, no plants and no food. It could not change fast enough because money was the only goal. Too bad it could not eat money! In the end the peace came. The slumber of their own making. The eons wasted... In the end it was a peace. A peace of their own making.

Doing it wrong? Stormtrooper "Yes Sir, right away Sir..."

Lol thank you Marblehead. Having some time to meditate on this and creatively expressing this has finally made me realize I am focusing too much energy on this. Or I was? So, just like some other things I am going to kick it like cold turkey. Just like any addictive habit I just need to avoid thinking about or talking about like subjects. Ah feeling better. Its like a big weight lifted off of me.

uh oh *looks nervously behind his shoulders* I think the thought police might converge... Look busy..

Yes cliches are viral displays of easily communicated and spread information. Mass communication is often cliched or riddled with cliches. Maybe we dont like cliches because they are kind of "empty". Maybe instead of being ugly bags of mostly water we are just a bag of nuts...

Its easy to get attached to a username

Or

We havnt heard any fat lady yet! lol

voltaire candide... amen reverend

I am quite sure that the workplace gossip analogy explained the original statement of people generally being full of contradictions. We may choose to agree with most or part of a general idea. Sometimes we reject the rest. The analogy of a gossip being "good" is just one colorful metaphor. Its also like the Evangelist that has focused on one area of a holy writing, at the sacrifice of other areas. Since this happens often with any scripture, we are sometimes unaware of shadowy areas of knowlege or awareness we did not persue. This is where we agree. It is my own shortcomming that I find conflict funny. There are many personal reasons for this. I would not stir things up haphazardly or deliberately today. Cruelty is one so-called virtue of scholars who are just "of the mind". I say that to distinguish between those who are more empathetic or emotional based in their learning curve. For people who are purely mental and this is a rough subject, knowledge and the mental problem solving aspect is held of higher value over comradery or friendship. I am approaching this subject from the aspect of human behaviour. However, we all need people and it seems a shame that learning this aspect of human interaction is difficult for these ones. This is not a "diss" it is just an aspect of human behaviour. Why did I post? I for some reason understood the whys of the original postee. I merely mean to inform only. However in a "Community" it is of better benefit to get along and understand differences rather than attempt to usurp, control or push an agenda. If you agree with what Ive said it sounds like my perspective is almost the same CowTao. We seek to understand, inform and/or harmonize if it is not possible to completely get along. I realize not everyone does get along, yet we can't try to wage wars all the time. Edit: It isnt fun to try to wage war, especially on a forum.

Hmm. Is not everyone contradictory in some way or another? Kind of like the workplace gossip who is extra-nice to you in the breakroom because earlier they stabbed you in the back by gossiping about you to a friend earlier. Is the person Good? Well they may be in many senses of the word. However, it still doesnt change the fact that they are a backstabber and a gossip. Personally, I havn't seen anything wrong in what he has said. Of course it has been a while since I have visited the forum. The only crime I have seen so far is outspokenness. If that is a crime, I am guilty of this too. It is sometimes easier to make people aware of things than to move against something. When ideas and paradigms conflict there will always be conflict. Too bad that I find it humourous.

VMarco, I am glad to hear of your acheivements. I havnt been on this forum for quite some time now. My mind was clouded for at least a good year that I had to work through due to a stressor. However, I also came out of it a better person. Personally, I cant help but wonder if you were targeted because I responded.

Hmm. There was a link in my reply. Nothing is ever an absolute. This is in as much as any chair is made up of the same material which is a metaphor for honesty. Because of our limited awareness, sometimes some of our fellow humans take this flaw "for a ride" when they lie. Let me break it down further so you understand, as I have had the habit of being utterly ambiguous in the past with my explainations. All of us have some measure of awareness. This awareness is increased when people bring things to our attention that we were not aware of before. In turn, sometimes because what we see disturbs us or makes us angry or upset we ignore things or close our awareness off. The fact is that no human can be completely aware all of the time and we falter or give misinformation sometimes when we truely intend not to. Me personally, it makes me sound unsure of myself when I have to truely give the answer "I dont know". This is because there may be so many unknowns that affect the outcome known as X. Such as: When will so and so be home? Well she did say that she had to run this and this errand and most likely will be home by 5pm. This is of course if one of the errands doesnt take too long and possibly could. People who lie count on the fact that people are not aware and count on this. They either hope to gain something or sometimes I have observed they do it for fun just to see reactions. There are some however that do it for power like for example in politics. Politics is full of half truths doctored up to sound good based upon social research on what groups of people like what. For example there are Rush Limbaugh followers out here in the states that have a following because what he says they like. The same can be said of Huckabee. In essence of what I am saying in the above link I posted to a note on facebook, hopefully mankind will soon see the destructive nature of not being true to a greater awareness of things and finally wake up. Humanity sleeps... quite deep still. I hope there is still time. Hope offers nothing however.

Hmm. I wrote something that in a round about way has to do with this same topic: (it is a three part series a lot of reading) Grant's Note on Facebook

I am no moderator. I have noticed several different forums over the years dealing with spirituality in general just go under. I can only guess at these things. In my observation, it seems when something escalates people involved somehow think that there is something they can do that they can get away with. This usually snowballs out of control. How to prevent it? I am unsure. My faults I try to deal with. Yes, we all have them yet some of us beat our selves up repeatedly over things. Something Ive only recently been able to overcome. I suppose back on track... I can only remember one time that my anger blinded me. I allowed myself to get wrapped up in it. Instead I should have asked myself: Am I ever going to meet this person in real life? No. What importance is it if I am some how "snubbed" on a forum? none. The word especially tends to take a negative aspect when online, so I think it is up to all of us to try to make what we post as positive as possible. There have been times where I wanted to post despite the fact that what I said would have come off as negative. In those cases I should not have over the years on different forums. Forums can be taken very very seriously it seems. When people give opinions, that is usually how they feel from the fiber of their being? Is it right or wrong? No. Its not wrong or right. It is when we make something wrong or right that it escalates. I don't mean this from the perspective of times past nondual type blah blah. I simply mean when we begin to judge right or wrong we start down this path we are talking about. People get bent out of shape, peoples feelings get hurt... someone leaves. Things are what they are. It doesnt afford much in the neighborhood of insight. Then again it seems that people might want to debate on how right or wrong that statement is. Course I am just a moron standing on the back of greatness. The last paragraph was more or less inspired by Neale David Walsch's Conversations with God. Still doing Stillness-Movement. Heart palpatations have gone away. Peace guys

I went for a walk last Saturday and ended up here three days before. I went around in circles for a few days with too much water and enough food to feel satisfied. I felt I could do as I please and people wouldnt understand why. No more could they be found again, and the answer lies in vane. If you wish, relax and without paying much attention to how you are generally thinking or feeling write down the first word that comes to you. That is your jump point to your next adventure. Please write down the word here This may not make sense to you at all, but if you dont like to feel confused or do not have a very active imagination you can choose to write pass or you can not. Walk around and eat something. Thanks for playing.

Super Soaker edit: condensedoriginal post

This topic made me re-evaluate the Taobums. I realize I do have many good abilities but I might not be what a teacher needs to pass on extra teachings to. I realize I will never be as good as I want to be, and there are many people who are still stuck holding on to old ideas and concepts. I must move on. It is not helping me or anyone else.