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Acts 2:38 @sean

Or maybe were not aware of themselves as much as they think they were when they did. Well, if we call something a thing we choose. I submit that we then give them a measure of power. It is easy to group things like that or even people that we do not like into such groups. That I also submit may be where our awareness betrays us. It is easier for people to position themselves against groups. Much harder for people to find a position above that that works towards a positive ideal that works in one's favor. But when I speak generalities... I do not do so according to my disposition, but more of a reflection of how I had to come to terms with the outworking of things in a way that was eventually meaningful and yet had a useable and pragmatic approach.

Awesome! Very well played. Well, I am kind of in a hurry to get back to practicing my stuff. I realize the bar I set... 20 thanks is a bit much. So, I will go ahead and post the practice. I will additionally add something which I do not often add. Which is that people that live free of the concepts that make people feel generally stuck have a faster chance of success. If you use mantras before hand, cleansing ones like STREEM, Ganesha, or any of the Tibean mantras that clear you that contain BEKANZE or BEKANZA, or other supplications that clear as well as a Stillness-Movement practice... All of these types of things tend to speed up the activation of it. Final Warning I give beforehand is that some mantras are specifically sacred. Meaning that people who would treat it in a worthless way find themselves in a type of negative contagion or entanglement. When I have warned people of this in the distant past, this went unheeded. Do not make this misteak. You have to put your full feeling, devotion and thanks into this practice. It is probably the most powerful thing in existance beside KREEM as a mantra or the one I explain in the spoiler.

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Hmm. Okay, I have decided to get really serious about this. I hardly ever share specific practices anymore BUT... That can all change. What if I told you that you could repeat something 108 times a day... That would put you in touch with the divine masculine. All you have to do is be consistent have 100% dedication and devotion to the practice -and do this every day until you do not need to anymore. Which can be 21-100 days depending on how firmly you put your faith into it. If I get 20 thanks for this post I promise to post it. It is simple. Its not a shakti or a bija... This method is like an atomic crack ride. Can I get 20?

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I was thinking about this stream I often would spend time by as a kid. Even as thought streams go. Some people throw rocks and pebbles in and still the beautiful stream keeps beautifully moving onwards. Kind of like a discussion of the scouts. I went back a bit through the posts, but I do not really see "opposition" it is just a rolling stream. @rene I like the merit badge. It is spacey.

You are not a punching bag. We are not treating you like a punching bag. Simple. Your words and you position are not you, or yourself. Most conversation on here is pretty much like that. I imagine there may be some people who just think of it in terms of people. But, just because they disagree does not mean that they are not your friends. I mean, people like me do take very strong positions on things. In fact, some of peoples views are deeply involved in very personal experiences that have developed over a very long time. I sympathize with you because some peoples attachments to their views or ideas are very strong. But, just because they are willing to talk about their ideas still means they want to interact with you which means that they care enough about you to do so. If you see people stop talking or conversing, it is much like overpetting a cat. The cat becomes frustrated and rrreeoow! So, likely people become tired of some types of conversation as well. So, pet your friends. Just don't overpet. rrreeoow!

@rene That has always shaped my perceptions of things. Years ago I thought, gee some of these people are seriously maligned... We need to help them. But in doing so... We just come full circle to understanding that each element of society as you said has it's raison d'etre. So, already we have groups that are pushing against the grain en masse. The voice they have publically is that their point must be accepted. (Tolerance implies that Intolerance exists). Sublimated to the highest spiritual energy of a thing in LOA is actually the want for them to be accepted. But, as groups gain power and influence any said group becomes totalitarian in enforcing its aims. Meaning that the secret wants they have had is to make more proselytes. This is essentially how liberalism dies. Once the ideas of championing the underdog has made them the alpha dog... The movement toward totalitarian goals have already been achieved. So, my aims, what has never been said until now... Is this: That all things possibly need to be challenged or protected. Since that is not something that can be used as a LOA point of manifestation... It is simply that people need to come together to a point of unity. That cannot be used either as an LOA point because the oppositional point exceed the ability to manifest. Thus, one has to find a subset of ideas. A vehicle from which all people can agree upon that is the sublimation of these ideas. I agree that each motivation and political group has its own raison d'etre. But we can see that in America "all Men are created equal and created with certain unalienable rights" was not, or is not good enough for some groups. Because we are still dealing with the ideas that some people could somehow be oppressed. When in reality we all have everything we need to achieve greatness or have forgotten that. Let me illustrate, in my pre-right ideology way by championing a cause I do not believe in. Lets say for example I decide to identify as bird-kin. The fact that many people identify with birds is a factor. Thus bird-kin exist. The fact that bird-kin might be oppressed because some people do not identify with birds is probably a factor that could be debated. Because people might disagree or impune things wrongly because a person takes a strong position helps identify the dichotomy that develops. When we start to create a dichotomy of sorts, it starts to set up the failure to begin with. That is why post-modernist thought was such a helper. If a people or group is oppressed, we should try to alleviate that oppression. Right? But, this exemplifies some of the fallacies of this potential. For each group that wins according to this subset, another will mysteriously arise to the same. So, if we keep this in place we can't really solve the real issues because we will always have more of the same. Post-modernist thought will always be seen to be right and constantly gratify and prove it is right with each group that is championed at each turn. It becomes an obsession and an addiction because it provides ready and accessible emotional gratification. Post-modernism always dictates that people who do not champion the cause of the underdog are evil and vile people. Thus, we made something so great... Who can speak against it, even if we really wanted to find something more effective? So, in the end... I took up the mantle of being specifically against that kind of thing. Because I firmly believe that it is somehow possible to bring the world back into balance by finding something that everyone can latch on to that will unify people. If people stay in the idea that some things oppress others, there can be no point of LOA manifestation for that. But if people can somehow find that there are sets of doings that impress the need for success in any given endeavor... We then circumvent the need for the post-modernist school of thought. The world changes constantly. Every day, we see that much hard and fast rules that we held to... Have easily proved futile. But, the more people are realizing that the false dichotomies we use only serve themselves as a vehicle for oppression rather than the specific groups themselves. The closer humanity is to understanding this failing in impeding and stifling the manifestation helps us find a better vehicle and point of manifestation for alleviating suffering.

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Maybe this bubble thing is underrated. I could create my own little bubble as well and declare everything else hurtful and harmful. It might just be fun. Really. Simply Immaculate or Simply Obama Nation... No those were not ideological slurs dont hurt me with your shaming... no...

The reality is many people do not know what tomorrow will bring. Where I live, most people get drunk all the time and have a lack of education, history and life experience to form developed conclusions. If you were to take away everyone's addictions... It proves this quite well that people so clouded by their various kinds of wants and addictions do not seek to be better people. They just want to stay in the warm goo that they are in. This goo is basically ignorance because it protects them from seeing things as they are. Its like the Buddhist parable of the Bird, horse and cat. The bird is freezing in a snowstorm, falls into the snow and is convinced he will freeze to death. The horse comes along and takes a big healthy shit on the bird. The bird thinks oh man, it can't get any worse... But then he realizes... I am warm! He starts singing he is so happy. A cat comes along, pulls him out of the shit and eats him. The shit symbolizes ignorance. The bird symbolizes the traveling initiate The horse symbolizes the common folk The cat represents a corrupt person. The moral of the story is that not everyone who shits on you is your enemy. Not everyone who pulls you out of shit is your friend. When you are in deep shit, don't sing. It is something of a complex object lesson. Ignorance always exists and provides a measure of protection to prevent harm. But, there will always be some corrupt people as well who under the guise of "knowing how it is, tell people what they want... Or even what they think people want to hear." So, when things get political, it often is not always what it seems because Ignorance and corrupt people make up the majority of what is said. I have learned my lesson from this as well. How does one swim in shit to save people from bad ideas? Truth is you don't. They have to find their own way out. Enlightenment and upwards is like a harsh cold blizzard. Something I have tended to leave out until now... Who is singing the loudest (consider the message in the Media, what is reported) and what is the message today? It is hard to hear, but it allows people to really evaluate what is going on here. It allows me to finally complete the object lesson without pointing fingers at anyone.

Nature does not use man-made tactics or man-made ecology to enforce ideas... Only people do that.

Of course. But people want you to think that. Its MOSTLY convoluted and distorted views and assumptions that exist... Not actual reality. Thats why people are so caught up in their fantasy worlds of different kinds. No wonder they have sentamentalist views. - Because it is all them. Bring on cannibalism... I don't give a fuck. Just don't let kids get hurt.

I think it might be a good thing... we have to just wait and see of course. I tend to disagree with the idea that Boy Scouts was an abusive organization. One or both my parents were present at troop meetings and all activities. Parents should be a part and present at such things because it protects kids. But, the thing that I don't get is that there were girls in Boy Scouts even as far back as my childhood. So, I do not see what the big deal is. I mean there was not a lot of paperwork involved (as far as I know) and maybe they fudged things a bit in Vermont (Where I lived back then). We didnt have camping trips or anything like that. In fact some of the Scout leaders were women, even though it might not have been Kosher to what Boy Scouts demanded. Just saying. I mean there were male scout leaders... But the moms did most of everything. The leadership was just all show. I know I am stepping on some feet here, but most of us who maybe lived in the northeast where things always were a bit different probably know what I mean. I think keeping women in organizations that involve children are a good thing. If something is going on, the women are more easily approachable especially if there was abuse. As far as I remember they were very mentally balanced. I think abuse has become demagogic in our age. I would like to see people trying to prevent abuse rather than simply labeling religion or a group as abusive. This kind of thing has gotten out of hand and people can't accept responsibility for things if we go around blaming a bunch of perceived pedobears when people do nothing to get involved to prevent it. I think it makes the people pointing fingers just as much to blame. If you have children and they are a part of something, try to be present or be a part in it if you can. I know that is not always possible but I think that is something anyone can do to prevent child abuse. It is one of the few causes I really believe in. Just being there means all the world to children. If everyone did their part there would be much less child abuse in the world. That is also why I do not think sex-ed should be taught by anyone other than teachers and parents. There is too much abuse going on when activist groups come to schools bringing porn paraphernalia to push their ideas on impressionable children. This is a greater danger than the catholic church and ensures some children a lifetime of depression and unhappiness due to accepting a lifestyle that is destructive.

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INNVENNTORR KING OF THE SHISHKEBAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too bad he is not here to appreciate it. Ron Jeremy that is. At least there are enough funny posts of his still around.

Well said; Could not have said it better myself.

Congratulations Rene, may the forum continue on. Thank you to thelerner for his service. May justice continue to be served.

In the twilight of the snark of the rise of the post-postmodern era... I came upon a search engine that suggests that answers can be computed rather than relying upon search results? Odd? I say ironic. Here is Wolfram-Alpha to play around with if you dare: http://www.wolframalpha.com/ Things sometimes naturally seem to have a form of irony. If you are familiar with the metalurgy in populist metaphysics, Wolfram or Tungsten has a dense resistive quality lending to chaotic energies. In populist jokes, Tungsten with cores of Selenium (a stone that draws in and self-cleanses energy) are used in the 1984 joke movie Ghostbusters. Funny? Maybe.

Vote Jesus Acts 2:38 Psalms 149

I am all for people's personal opinions. Maybe someday when fear doesn't get the best of people they can talk about ideas. Instead of feeling like they have to take a manipulative position. But, my attempt to talk about ideas is over because people can not talk about ideas. Peace and contentment exists within, as ideas go, as long as these are too caught up in talking about people or groups they wont be in the now so that they can talk about ideas. There in lies the rub. Higher development always has a specific set of prerequisite patterns of behavior. It is not that I am here to force things on people, but to show now what is lost by decisions we make that affect others. The shift has it's own set of implications. So, we will see now what happens when ideas go unchallenged. I do appreciate our conversations and dialogue much. After I have meditated on the needed changes I need to make to being about my personal shift, I may look forward to future dialogue on the forum. But, there is a chance too that I may possibly just give up entirely. Spending several years working on something to make the world more successful was a large personal undertaking and happened due to great personal cost. The fact that some are only living out their own personal fantasies of Les Miserables on the forum is still not lost on me either. The world is not some fantasy play from a book. It does not show a spiritual view, Daoism being a spiritual view, and peace and stillness being a major component. But, humans have paradoxes and trivialities they each have a part in evaluating themselves. For me, I cannot shift back to the faulty concept of talking about people because it is ineffective, unsuccessful. So, any future discussions will most likely still be from the perspective of ideas. It will take some time to integrate all of it. But, ideas will go unchallenged instead. That is the end result of this. If people feel that they want to challenge ideas... I will remind them at every turn that that is what they wanted. Age and experience dictates how we see things. So, if I stay you will see me posting. If you don't see it well, it is a function of the end results of things. I would like to, but like I have said in another post, the lack of support on all terms has been negligible. So, if people are undervalued, they have a right to say that they do not need to be treated that way. So, I am a meritocrat... Instead of eschewing a whole group of ideas. Ill just crystallize them. Whats next?

What is there to lie about? We have seen the theatrics... That was meaningless but to develop how theatrics develop positions. There real point is that things have become too hardened and that because of deeply entrenched ideas. I did not really care about destroying the rights of groups or individuals. I suggest that BECAUSE the sentiment and ideas are way too juvenile that they still think that this is the reason why. The real reason is that they leave me with no choice regarding the real reason, that being that people SHOULD be allowed free speech for the sake of new ideas and the future. If that cannot happen, then just like I realized years ago... I actually meditated long and hard on this... The only choice I have is to be a liberal again. Because, there is one ideology and no one is willing to see different ideas. So, it is a sad day. Because people are too wrapped up in their own lies to allow new things to flourish. Furthermore, family I have uses these same suppressive tactics. I don't have any more choices anymore. Without any support I can't continue because it has been years of trying. I am tired of just going things alone and trying to use theatrics to get people to listen. I have been alone for just too long. I have no more reasons anymore to post and the mission dies with me. People want to talk about harm. Well, it has harmed my life and that is completely it. Thank you to all who made it possible. But, I wont allow it to affect the forum, Goodbye forever.

That is where the impasse is, my friend. But, we still have ideas. We come up with new ones... spread them. But the hate... when I speak of hate it is the mere opposition to open expression and free flow of ideas... It is still there. Because they are not open, they sometimes adapt. But, we just create new ideas that go under the radar again. It was never about any group being wrong for me. It was always about new ideas. Some people love them and they spread them. Something that is not lost on me, I do thank the psychic who was able to pull me out of melancholy in Michigan, as well as the words of other teachers I have had. But one thing she said about respect made a large impression on me. She said respect is a two-way street. You have to give respect to get respect. That kind of made me realize some things about love as well. That we actually listen to people is actually a form of love. It is also a form of respect. In a way, if we do not listen to people... In a way we are not showing love or respect. Naturally, this does not mean that we are going to agree with everything a person says. But, even in my fermented fish sort of way I do respect what people say. I respect them enough to tell them that if I see something that may not be helpful, I will challenge what they say. No, it really isn't defining anyone for right or wrong because we each have decisions to make, here and now. Just because someone came up with a bad idea doesn't mean we have to live with letting it define existence. That is probably also why the discussion has been... Slow going? Maybe some thoughts are way too deeply entrenched to be evaluated? Neither of these things makes people wholly right or wrong. It is just that what you say and what they have been saying does not make me question my perspective. It makes me question whether it is right for me to just start nuking ideas in a thread, on any forum... really. I mean if ideas like these can not be really addressed... Maybe something else has to happen first. The point you made of foreign political bodies is not lost on me. But, I suggest that such a thing would only anchor it to a concept that could indelibly harden things. That I can't agree with, though it may be a mistake. Is the concept of attacking bad ideas lost? Have we done such irreparable damage that we do not have free-thinking human beings? The concept of working toward the betterment of all beings is not lost on me either. I would like to speed up the process. But, that does not happen until people start to look at ideas that are bad, ineffectual and start creating new ideas or start thinking about how some ideas could work in their stead. It does not work for everyone, sadly. Perhaps, one day I will finish and publish my findings and writings. Is there a different way to handle the situation? I am confident inspired minds will prevail, that these ideas will come to be elucidated. @Stosh You also mentioned some things you would like to see. Lets talk about them and develop working points. @rene You mentioned that you felt some of the ideas lent themselves towards miscommunication. I think your feedback is essential. @Marblehead Doesn't suppression of ideas do worse harm than not allowing facts to be said? I say it does. I also know that doing so, will only incur the wrath of people later... As these same people struggle to claim that they "didn't do it".