TheWhiteRabbit

Does anyone else have any knowledge on the traditional date of the Old Boy's birthday celebration? Without going into Mak's title of "Chief Master of Taoism for governing Taoism in this world" ( http://www.taoismcanada.com/eabouttinsi.html ) there seem to be some inconsistancy's in when this celebration is in China.

 

For example, this temple is starting the celebration on the 14th: http://www.china.org.cn/english/culture/161189.htm

 

While the Chinese government set up the Lao Tzu research institute on the 11th in "honor of his birthday": http://en.chinagate.cn/development/special...nt_17426090.htm

 

Is there one traditional date or is this a difference of lineages/traditions?

The date changes from year to year, due to the fact that the chinese go by a lunar-solar calandar originally..

I wanted to say something here about Mak, but healers don't do damage, they help people.

Granted. You are now a 100 and know better. You are just too old to do anything about it. And you don't want to.

 

I wish Cameron doesn't get married when he goes to Korea.

HAHA!

Granted he doesnt get married when he goes to Korea.. But he finds a hot chick anyway who likes him so much she... (deleted for politness)

Shes into the same stuff for the most part as him, they move back to the states and THEN get married.

He spends so much time with her doing things married people do that he doesnt have time for much else! haha!

The Illuminati?

Ive heard of the conspiracy theory, but do I believe it, no I dont.

 

Is the book going to be mostly theoretical or is the real interest writing about a real Pan istic group.

 

Michael

It morea about stuff ive seen in dreams, writing it down. Historical information couldnt hurt.

You were right energy contains information also, or can, so you were right. Wait and see what happens......

You are right to say so....

In fact opening yourself up to what is stated has many dangers...

Thats a valid point, and a very good one made me think of my early years studying psychology for management.. as in Groupthink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

Initially the idea I had was based upon panology a long dead science that died circa 1847...

It was based upon how everything is interelated and associated with everything else.

Thank you Ya Mu for your answer, it makes the most sense.

I am glad we have you on the forum

I think what they mean to say is stagnant or stuck energy instead of bad..

Sounds like something from shang ching daoism, the monsters or worms bit.

Being entirely forthcomming, go and get trained and certified. This is the best way.

Otherwise if you havnt been initiated properly into these mysteries you will always worry and have fear over the next thing. It may seem difficult but its really the only way.

the new "Panism" (Writing a book)

Pan-ist (coined by me 2008) Is the belief that people of similar political and religious views must be separated, and by their types forced to work together as a well oiled machine as each part of the entire whole has something the other needs. This means that there would be a centralized body of individuals devoted to making this work, who understand ALL the perceptions of people they rule. Thus it become highly specialized, and can only be undertaken by people who have trained have enough awareness so as not to have an opinion.

This is in harmony with Dao where the energies have become scattered in recent times and symbolizes and structures a "regrouping" of energies for the synergy of the future ages. Separation in itself being the effective limitation of all antagonism as far as deemed necessary to preserve each view for posterity.

Ideas, critique - Ill be here.

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It definately looks interesting... i know we had a different thread a while ago that even got into faraday cages, but zerpoint energy and quantum theory also comprises stuff that doesnt fall into the same areas as faraday cages...

Stuff like energy being able to instantaeously transfer from one location to another (like remote viewing) without delay.

I agree with criticism, yes it can be a bad thing when people get hung up on words, but most like that are well critical people and wont ever get the deeper stuff.

Im going to asdk my wife about it in a few days and get back on the post,im in think mode a bit right now, plus have some pressing matters to attend to.

Very interesting... You have my interest peaqued... Hmmm.

In the tomb of king tut there was a necklace said to raise the dead... The eye of horus was on the front, and the back piece had two djed symbols on either side of another ankh like symbol without arms or with arms down... some kind of ptah symbol

Wondering wht the significance of it was but, since the malachite beads were rough and unrefined it gave me a headache to hold.

If you have more and would like to write more about this at your leisure it would be awesome. It kind of has me doing more research of my own...

The matematic is interesting... It must be some type of mathematical school like the pythagoreans had or there might have been some kind of cult about it.. very cool.

Cool about the spitting that has simiiarities to african and asian healing (holy water) techniques....

GRANTED : Your garden blooms , blossoms and thrives like it has never done before. Just as the first of the bumper crops are getting ready to harvest, your gums start to ache in a most disturbing way. A visit to your dentist and you find that you have a rare gum disease that even the wisdom contained in Yoda's "Tooth Regeneration" post cannot heal. The only choice is to have all your teeth out and a full set of dentures. You won't be able to eat anything except canned soup for the next 3 months till everything has settled in.

 

I wish for full and complete Enlightenment. Each of these other wishes all have major flies in their ointment !!

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You gain complete enlightenment, more so than any other human being...

You get to keep your body though still being able to travel as a spirit, unfortunately since your energy vibration is higher than anyone elses, you get to a place no one else has reached, and become lost in one of the higher planes of existence... Lifes rough that way.

Since the wish about flies in ointment was not specific, the worlds oil supplies organic as well as inorganic turn into large gad flies. Ugh, so bad they name the flies after you. Due to some severe imbalance that

occurs, the insects that decay and clean up decayed material have decreased and the stench becomes horrible.

I wish everyone on Taobums gets five million dollars after taxes!

Hun(s) and Po(s) are developed ??

 

Aren't you born with 3 hun and 7 po already?... not making much sense here with your half-bucket water knowledge guy..

Thats correct. We have them already.

yes other schools DO teach different methods, just as training opens your awarness to existing energies.

The school of Medical ChiKung in Beijing teaches this method, as there are methods.

A side door technique used to sense spirits and ghost is the eight direction perception meditaion, or something similar where you use your periphrial energies to sense spirits. After that, there are different ways of sensing or feeling what kind they are based upon the feelings but that is the most basic.

Just because you are not completely knowledgable about the subject doesnt mean you can be 'hating'...

In fact if your heart is in it, enlighten us.

This is closer to what I conceive as a spirit world going around us. Again not seeing it, not noticing any effect it has on my life it's not in 'my world'. Not yet.

 

I'd prefer whatever method I use to see this part of reality be experiential based, not told in legends, stories or any book form; because I don't want that prism. I don't want to feel an elephants butt and say an elephant is a lot like a fart . If its my Karma to see into that world I want it done w/out dark glasses.

That cool learner, hmmm... all i can say is if you are not used to it. Dont believe in it, then are exposed to it it can be a shock...(as was my case) Especially when you hear a gooman tong bang on walls. Creepy initially, then when you realize they have rules that they follow too, just like we have in the physical world... its cool.

Full version of official Chinese government sanctioned teachings only becomes popular in West.

 

I wish my retirement funds were doing better.

You get a tip that is highly illegal and you become filthy rich! 45 billion to say the least. Now that you can do anything you want you find it hard to find the time for things you enjoyed before. Eventually you move to Bhutan to avoid the onslaught of people after the economy goes south, and make the native people very happy with the wealth being distributed there, you build a mansion and the natives erect a Daoist Temple in your honor...

I wish my right foot would stop hurting (club foot+ surgery) and would be normal...

I not really raining on anyones parade with this, as my first master once explained when he covered the procedure for making a gooman tong... I hope no one gets offended... I little piece of the older culture:

A ghost or gui is formed generally by a traumatic event. The hun and the po fuse to create the gooman tong.

Since when the fetus is still in the womb the spirit which is to incarnate usually leaves and comes back to the fetus body. These properties make the best ghost suited to the purposes of defense and wealth, due to the ability of the spirit to roam, and the fusion of the three etheral and the baser po...

Now it is no secret that the three etheral spirits exist at each of the dantiens, and the baser po... (I omit these locations)

On a different note, hun are different and lighter, and it is said that when one passes and has been righteous the original spirit or golden pearl unites with the three etheral spirits and is free to roam about until it generally has forgotten the lesson of individuality learned on the physical plane....

hun and po are developed through prayer, the po having more ties to the five elements and the physical plane, and other spirits...

Now my views:

There are other types of spirits too,

Angels (daoist equivalent is celestial soldiers)

Gnomes they build the plants and like to play. They usually come with plants.. Once I tried to grow a rare plant from seed.. They were like.. what is it? Can we grow it? We grew it!

Other hypothesis for these is perhaps there may be energies of the environment interacting with unconscious issues, which is very promising.

However most spirits and entities require permission before entering peoples homes and environments and such. This is why ghost attacks, and most attacks do not work well against someone experienced...

Then there are the firecrows, and many other spirits:

But I like NeutralWire's list which is very comprehensive. Just about everything falls into either of the categories.

If you subscribe to more complex schemes, the 10 gods, all branches and stems in bazi hae their own power and can have hidden jia in the old methods.

However you can also sense what type of spirits in the vicinity when you feel one by becoming aware of how you feel.

okay, what I am seeing is that you guys all have the same idea of "ghosts are bad" is that right?

 

if not, what think of "killing" them?

 

do you guys think that ghosts are what we will turn into after death? or you are thinking that it is something that just exsist in this world?

Hun or Po? You are not specific...

At that not all ghosts are bad, only ones that mislead...

on the other hand, killing never really helps, it's more like a short term solution? i think it's more about evolution and co existing?

 

but it might still be good to know, for something like self defense? although killing may be a really big extreme.

 

what do you mean by reversing polarities by the way?

They are called spirit-skills, exorcism.

Think of a being of energy as a magnet.... you wrap it like an electromagnet the opposite way, and it dissolves into the wuji.

Yes it is about peaceful coexistence, but when they cause mayhem that begins to piss me off....

scientist

 

ahaha! You did great at school when you are having your science class didn't you?

 

so what do you think about ghosts here? welcome new member of this post. what is ghosts compose of then with all the chem. knowledge?

 

To understand what ghosts is, is to understand the electric and the magnetic.

Induction(magnetism) can increase electric, and amperage can also increase magnetism.

Each part of each energy has corresponding magnetic and electric forces.

In radio frequency electronics, particles travel in spirals which explains this quite well, in that the magnetism always mimics the wavelength.

Reversing polarities on entities like ghost means obliterating ghosts and spirits in this realm.

Not to mention all ghosts and spirits can be killed.

so are you just "energy" and not human beings? how can you type with your "fingers" ? sorry, you do not have any fingers.. you are just energy?????????

Yes.

Photons are made of zero point energy

quarks are made of photons

subatomic particles are made of quarks

atoms are made of subatomic particles

matter is made of atoms

each element on the periodic table of elements is made of atoms, based upon how many protons in an atom.

Thus Energy equals mass times the velocity of light squared (e=mc^2)

Different matter and energy have different properties also and are not universal.

Well that was just one teacher 10 years ago.

Recently my wifes mother a few years ago made me feel that way when I was around her, that instance is definately more prominent in my mind, if so haha!

But many high level spirit fighters have been known to bring out peoples unconscious negativity. This seems to be a common concensus with most of the people I hang around now.

No, you bring a valid point.

I agree when one is around a schitzo or someone who is in fact ill, one feels not right. Thats biofeedback alright, showing that one is around something ...not good. You are right about that.

So, then just out of curiosity if one feels slightly dizzy, would you consider that exposure to higher energies?

It's not a delusion though, in the example he stated he really did lose control of his energy. Where the guy with the high energy level made him high.

I guess you could kind of look at it that way. Ten years ago when it happened I remember the more profound feelings of irritation and not comprehending what was going on, which created those emotions. I suppose if one was very experienced in these matters and has taught others one would realize what the situation was. Sometimes the dynamics of what is going on is not as easily understood as to what to do about it. Example: Sometimes you have to get the feel of an object to move it with your hands. We might not understand the nitty gritty dynamics of our muscle fibers moving to grab something, but we know how to do it.

My teacher just simply dismissed it and said 'you are not used to the higher energies'.

Over time, I just got used to it and got better at controlling my energy too.

Wow this is cool! plus the magazine! I havnt seen anything like it since Qi Magazine!

I think he was seeking an answer along that line.

When really the conclusion we reached was unrelated to reading minds.

It was the concept that sometimes when you train on your own then come in contact with people of a higher energy vibration that SOMETIMES it triggers a feeling of paranoia. Especially when one is not used to the spike in energy that happens when you encounter strong energy.

It was difficult to put into words.

Reading minds is something anyone can do, very similar to communicating with spirits. However it seems unrelated to what we were talking about.

Generally when people are trained and certified to read minds or communicate with spirits they are taught techiques to cut through illusions so they do not feel/become paranoid. e.g. Bubble of white/purple light meditation etc... In essence I am merely confirming a danger of self-study.