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@dwai @thelerner I think I have this fixed. Not sure how it happened. Must have been when I was setting up Miroku's subforum. Sorry about that! Thanks for finding your missing forums dwai!

Not sure I’m up to it but was very inspired when I read about this a while back - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lionsroar.com/in-exclusive-first-interview-mingyur-rinpoche-reveals-what-happened-during-his-four-years-as-a-wandering-yogi/amp/

In the tradition I follow, working with the darkness is every bit as important as working with light. In fact, one of the most valuable aspects of light is its innate ability to illuminate the darkness.

@Damla - Voila! You now have your own ppd. I hope you enjoy your time here.

Makes sense... It seems to me “laws of nature” would better be called “consistent patterns in nature based on limited observations.”

Just a little off the top, please

😆 I just read some Vmarco today!

Not sure the Tibetans are Tibetan but they’re good. Another set attributed to Tibet (old Bön) is the Kum Nye found here. Wonderful exercises but they’re pedigree is uncertain. Swimming dragon qigong is powerful and simple.

My teacher always emphasized relaxing into the proper posture. We were never advised to exert any significant force in the hips, or anywhere else.

There is also the Red Garuda (Khyung mar) in Bön, a yidam that is connected to the nagas in various ways according to customs - https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Garuda https://www.quora.com/If-Garuda-and-Nagas-are-enemies-why-does-he-hold-some-of-them-like-Vaasuki-on-his-body

Fantastic subject matter to discuss. There are a few members here, @Yueya in particular, who have a deep connection to Jungian philosophy and methods. I know little about it but always find it connects to my own view and practice and often sheds light through its unique and well developed perspective. I agree with Ilumairen that the emphasis is best focused on the subject matter without pointing at specific individuals without their consent and request. As has been stated elsewhere more eloquently than I am capable, taking the responsibility to point out the defects of others in a public forum uninvited can be quite offensive and often poorly received - Some welcome the feedback and the opportunity it affords to work on oneself. Others may not be on that path, may not be ready, willing, or interested. It’s a big responsibility to take on for real. In an anonymous, digital community it’s very touchy.

I know little about the subject but the Lu (Skt- naga) occupy an important place in the Bön tradition. They are the focus of mythology, offering rituals, even tantric practices. Here is some info - https://ravencypresswood.com/2019/01/05/our-otherworldly-neighbors-the-lu/ Here is an interesting overview of various serpent related forms in various cultures - http://www.mt-kailash.ru/english-version/a-study-of-naga-beings-as-a-global-phenomenon-and-their-relation-with-kailash-manosarovar-region.html

Speaking of fallibility, I’ve got to share that I regret the posts I made earlier in this thread. I genuinely did not mean to equate Earl and his friends with Trump and his supporters in order to insult or degrade anyone but I see how it would seem like I was. I was simply trying to make a point about how we each have our different realities and it seemed like a powerful and obvious example. That analogy, and my comments about Earl, were clumsy and careless. I was in a bad place mentally at the time due to some personal challenges at home. To be clear, I don’t disagree with the action taken. From a mod’s perspective it was necessary. I do regret making matters worse with my impulsive and inconsiderate comments. I felt it necessary to get that off my chest and I offer the board, and my fellow mods, my sincere apologies. 🙏🏽

I think it is a sign of openness and connectedness. I suggest a creative outlet to channel the imagination - prose, poetry, music, painting, drawing, dance, higher maths, a non-profit, whatever... something to focus it a bit. And that can change from time to time. Sounds like you’re quite literally living the dream. Congrats!

AI

Yes, I believe any reasonable reader should be able to figure it out, if they choose to. Personal - directed at an individual, as in the derailing of both recent threads started by welkin. Takedown - as in dismantling, destroying, beating down. Ask Earl about that one Earl hid it for his own reasons. I’m a bit uncomfortable unhiding it but going to check with the team about that. It’s only as complicated as you make it.

My point is we see his behavior differently and explaining and arguing doesn’t seem to change it. It wasn’t intended as an insult. Sorry about that.

Why is that?

If you would like to see how personal takedowns are being defined here, search on Earl Grey’s content. He can’t help himself, it seems. It is pervasive. His time here is a masterclass... Maybe it’s just method acting, I don’t know... Both of welkin’s recent threads, Earl’s very recent, and hidden by him, takedown of someone asking simple questions in the Cultivator’s Club. Note to self - Maybe I’ll unhide that for educational purposes. If you can’t see the problem with Earl here for yourself my words won’t help. Maybe a little like the Trump problem in the US, some see him as a problem, some as a friend, some as a leader. No one can help the other to see a different possibility. Five mods agree it’s a problem for the forum. You can all blow it up or move on. I’m tired of discussing Earl. I really tried to understand him and I think I do, but his poor treatment of others, especially the vulnerable, is finished here. And shockingly, he’s got yet another chance... ttfn

sterile

I have locked the thread as it has been off topic far too long and I feel the mods need to discuss the direction to go. Let’s all take a step or two back regarding this discussion and give it space for a few breaths, please. Let’s rest our minds from this topic for a moment. Thank you for your patience.

labor

We have received a report about this thread and are currently reviewing whether any action is necessary. I caution everyone to watch the personal attacks and takedowns. I’ll ask one final time to return to the topic rather than the person posting it, please. The Mod Squad